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Contents 1 Welcome to Wikipedia 2 Jesus/Josephus 3 22nd century 4 Yoda 5 Petrovichi 6 2006 7 Your Edit to Till We Have Faces 8 Animals in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints 9 Ants and Mut-Ants 10 Book: Wikipedia for Dummies 11 Namaste 12 Your edits to September 18 and 1948 13 Poor Wedding Guests 14 Yehuda Ha-Nasi

[edit] Welcome to Wikipedia

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[edit] Jesus/Josephus

Jesus said, "Turn the other cheek." He was crucified by Pilate after this action. No other candidate has been proposed for the leader of the Caesarea action. I have not yet heard or read one single good argument againts Jesus being the leader of this action. Plenty of good reasons for, no reason against. - Das Baz, 15 February 2006, 10:08 Nonviolent resistance article ---

Ammonite is another name for the people of Anti-Nephi-Lehi. -- User:Das Baz 16:44, 16 Februa

If the whole world rejects the truth, it still remains the truth. -- User:Das Baz 16:44, 16 February 2

It is not just that the Caesarean Incident is close to the Crucifixion account. It is also that Jesus was the first great Teacher of Nonviolent Resistance, and thus the most likely candidate for the leader of the Caesarean Protest.

Learn to discuss theories rationally instead of calling for censorship and preventing the free exchange of ideas. How do you know other people do not accept the theory if you suppress it and erase it? -- User:Das Baz 16:44, 16 February 2006 Hey, it was I, Das Baz, who created the article on Nonviolent Resistance in the first place. Give people a chance to consider the theory. -- User:Das Baz 16:44, 16 February 2006

Gandhi may have independently discovered this theory, since he considered Jesus his teacher on Nonviolent Resistance.- Das Baz, 16 February 2006. -10:43 AM. Why exactly does this theory, the Caesarean Paradigm, enrage you so much? What exactly is your problem with it? - DB.

And, by the way, I had absolutely nothing to do with that French-Turkish linguistic idea. -Das Baz, 3/2/2006, 10:27 AM

[edit] 22nd century

You have again added Mozarts anniversary to the major anniversaries-list. Could we talk about this? I don't think it's very useful to mention his 350th birthday. Why not add his 400th anniversary in 2156 as well? Thanks. --Leo44 (talk) 17:43, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Hey, what do you have against Mozart? He's the greatest musician ever.- Das Baz 25 February 2006, 11:52 AM

Uhm, do you understand my question? I have nothing against Mozart, I only have something against non-significant anniversaries like 350 years or something of the like. If it'd been his 250th aniversary, it would be quite different. Don't you agree? --Leo44 (talk) 18:18, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Okay, just so as not to prolong a trivial debate, I agree to keep just the 250th anniversaries and the centennial anniversaries, and leave the rest out. - Das Baz, 3/1/2006

Good sir, I thought we had a deal? --Leo44 (talk) 19:52, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

I thought the deal was - 250th anniversary and the centennial anniversaries - 200th, 300th, 400th, 500th. Not the 350th, 450th, 550th, etc. If anyone put in any of those, it was not myself. Das Baz, 4/4/06, 10:26 AM.

Well, I thought the deal was: only significant anniversaries, not anniversaries which happen every century. A centennial anniversary happens every century and is therefore not significant. 250th, 500th, 750th etc, do not happen every century and are therefore more significant. Everything turns one-hundred years older every century, even the birth of Mozart. --Leo44 (talk) 19:40, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, it seems to me that things that happen once a century are significant, and most people agree with this view. If you are going to suppress Mozart's 300th and 400th anniversaries, then to be consistent you have to suppress all 300th and 400th anniversaries, including 2076 and 2176, the tricentennial and quadricentennial of American Independence. Das Baz, April 6, 2006, 10:40 AM.

The tricentennial and quadricentennial of American Independence are not in the Major Anniversaries section of the 22nd century article, are they? So you're right: they have to be suppressed, and they are. Thanks, --Leo44 (talk) 16:01, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Yoda

Please stop adding that link to the Yoda article. Nufy8 23:54, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Why? It's a perfectly good link. What do you have against it? Das Baz, 24 May 2006. 9:52 AM.

I thought the vegetarian interview with Yoda was amusing, but not a reference source. Bejnar 16:43, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

It is not only humorous, but also though-provoking, a good example of the influence of Yoda on modern thought.Das Baz 15:22, 2 June 2006 (UTC) Anyway, for those who want to decide for themselves, here is the link: Article by Urrutia: "Interview with Master Yoda."

[edit] Petrovichi

I really enjoyed the work you put into the Petrovichi article. It really reads well. Bejnar 16:43, 1 June 2006 (UTC) Thank you very much, Bejnar. As you can tell, I am a big fan of Dr. Isaac Asimov of blessed memory. Das Baz 15:21, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 2006

Hi. I've removed the following entry from 2006#June:

• June 13 - Israel strongly affirms it did not cause the June 9 explosion on a Gaza beach.

This is already mentioned in the entry for the initial event:

• June 9 - An explosion kills eight Palestinian civilians on a Gaza beach. Four days later Israel denies responsibility for the blast.

Pburka 17:48, 23 June 2006 (UTC) OK, that's acceptable and makes sense. Das Baz 16:10, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi. I've also removed this entry:

• July 4 - Palestnian rocket hits school courtyard in Ashkelon, Israel.

This attack caused no injuries or significant damage. I don't think that we can include every event like this in the 2006 page. (I'm not picking on Israel, BTW; I've removed many other minor events from the page). Pburka 04:31, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

You're right, it was really a minor incident without casualties or major damage. It looks even less important in light of subsequent developments. 16:38, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your Edit to Till We Have Faces

Das Baz, really, I have to say yours was a jewel of an addition to the Till We Have Faces article. It's not simply a clever edit; it is most certainly there to stay in the article...you might want to furnish a reference from the literature on the topic to solidify your addition's accepted permanence. You described succinctly the correlation between the ancient Cupid and Psyche myth and the contemporary Beauty and the Beast tale that has survived to this day. Also, browsing your talk page, I see we have many of the same interests: Isaac Asimov, Star Wars, LDS Church, Josephus as a historical document, C.S. Lewis, and Israeli/Palestinian current events, among other things. Cheers --Piewalker 19:00, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

To that list we can add as being among my main interests: Alexander the Great, Ancient Israelite History, Animal Rights, Anime, the Future, Israeli Poetry, Jesus, Manga, Mozart, Nonviolent Resistance, Tolkien, Veganism, Vegetarianism. Das Baz 15:27, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Take a look at the latest pushes and pulls at Till We Have Faces. I've used your argument about not needing to referencing everything in the whole world, especially if it's common sense and verifiable. Please support if you feel so inclined. Piewalker 00:01, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Animals in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

This article was just listed for speedy delete by an anon - I am notifying you since you contributed to the article :) Animals in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints --Trödel 20:47, 20 July 2006 (UTC) Thank you very much for the alert. The anon is obviously just motivated by bigotry. Das Baz 15:35, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

What did you think about the whole AfD discussion? Your illumination was notably absent. Piewalker 17:00, 28 July 2006

I will need more time and study before I can say something useful about "Articles for Deletion" in general. Ask me about specific points, and I shall tell you what I think. I am certainly very much against deleting Animals in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and said so. Das Baz 17:02, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

I was just hoping to hear you chime in the anti-deletion discussion, which has now evolved into a merge discussion. You had what I thought to be good points to preserve the article. Now that has been accomplished, the aforementioned merge discussion is taking shape on the LDS Church and Animals talk pages that I think you could certainly influence. I'm not attempting to "lure" you into discussion or create work for you that you don't have time or interest for; I merely wanted to raise your awareness that there's some interesting posts I've been responding to that perhaps may be up your alley, too. Saw Miami Vice today. Farrell was better in Alexander. I take it from your pro-Formicidae response on my talk page about war that you saw The Ant Bully? I said to myself, "there's gotta be something behind her preoccupation with ants." From the article you referred to..."Ants have colonized almost every landmass on Earth. They can constitute up to 15% of the total animal biomass of a tropical rainforest; in the Amazon the combined weight of the ants is said to be four times larger than that of the tetrapods in the same area." Piewalker 23:58, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ants and Mut-Ants

Yes, saw The Ant Bully, loved it very much, will see it again, and I recommend it to everybody. Also saw X-Men: The Last Stand, but can only recommend it for those who, like myself, already know the characters. For anyone else, I think it would be rather bewildering. Das Baz 15:18, 31 July 200

[edit] Book: Wikipedia for Dummies

I think that it would be a good idea. I am always finding new projects, 'rules', templates, systems etc. on Wikipedia that I did not even suspect. Some people do like to have a book in their hand, even when doing things electronically. It would be a lot of work, even though the material is all there (somewhere) in the Wikipedia: articles. Outlining what to cover would be a good start. The five pillars of Wikipedia (and links) doesn't begin to cover it. In the past, I've found IDG Books open for suggestions, but I was never been willing to commit to their production cycle. Hungry Minds, Inc., a Delaware corporation, on October 31, 2000, was merged into IDG Books Worldwide, Inc., a Delaware corporation, under the name "Hungry Minds, Inc." and then it was purchased by Wiley Publishing, Inc. I have not dealt with Wiley editors. They say "It is Wiley's policy not to accept unsolicited proposals for books in the For Dummies series. You may send us a copy of your credentials for our files or contact a literary agent to submit a proposal on your behalf. If you choose to submit a proposal through an agent and do not already have one, we suggest that you consult a publication like Literary Market Place that offers contact information for literary agents. Please be aware that Wiley Publishing, Inc. retains the right to publish a book, at any time, on any topic." Bejnar 17:16, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

If you think about it, all involved authors need to be recruited and in agreement of the project before we approach a publisher. And really, there's gotta come a time when we cap recruiting. Roles would need to be fleshed out. We'd need one dedicated project manager. The distribution of workload needs to be planned for if this thing would reach fruition. Not to mention, any major Wiki events will need to be tracked throughout the editing process to prevent inaccurate or outdated content from making it into the first edition. Iff any one of us has an agent (I do not), it could help overall, but I'm concerned about preferential treatment given to that particular "represented" author. Piewalker 17:39, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Namaste

Namaste

Namaste, aloha, shalom and thank you very much. Das Baz 15:34, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your edits to September 18 and 1948

• September 18, 1948 - At 10:15 AM, Yoni Abramski, age 12, is shot and murdered by a Jordanian sniper on Nehemiah Street in Jerusalem.

The day and year topics are intended for links to existing articles in Wikipedia. Also, a Google search for "Yoni Abramski" returns no results (at least, none in English). And (I know this sounds unkind when the topic is the death of a child), links on these pages should indicate why an event is particularly notable.

-- Jim Douglas 23:38, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

It was particularly notable to his mother, his family, his friends, his neighbors, and all Israel. Das Baz 23:40, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Understood, however the incident does not appear to be well known to the English-speaking world. A google search finds nothing, and a search of the NYTimes archives for the period finds no relevant matches for "Abramski". References added to the date and time topics must be verifiable. -- Jim Douglas 23:46, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

The reference: A Tale of Love and Darkness, a memoir by Amos Oz Das Baz 23:49, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

The incident should be well-known to the whole world, of whatever language. Das Baz 23:52, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Let me put it like this: The incident is tragic, that's a given. In what way is the death of this particular child notable to history, when compared to the hundreds (thousands?) of children who have died in Arab-Israeli conflicts since 1947? Or the untold thousands of children who have died in any conflicts? -- Jim Douglas 00:04, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Believe me, if I could, I would write, using my own blood, an article for every child, of all nationalities and religions, who have been killed, either deliberately (as Yoni was) or as "collateral damage." I'll include as many as I can in as many places as possible.Das Baz 00:13, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Poor Wedding Guests

The page you just created is an Wikipedia:Attack page. I have marked it for deletion.Mapetite526 22:06, 3 October 2006 (UTC) Attack? I'm not attacking anyone. Das Baz 22:21, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

You have recently re-created the article Poor Wedding Guests. This was deleted in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policies. Please do not re-create the article: if you disagree with the article's deletion, you may ask for a review at Wikipedia:Deletion review. Aecis ^{I'm too busy acting like I'm not naive} 22:29, 3 October 2006

Das Baz is an important and responsible contributor to our Wiki community. Condescending remarks toward Das Baz are degrading, inappropriate, and unneccessary, regardless of individual notions of the suitability of content and pages proposed. Please revise the tone of your correspondence to be more respectful. I have not always agreed with Das Baz, but have (in my mind) been respectful nonetheless and I believe much good work has been provided to our community as a result of mutually respectful teamwork. I urge all to do likewise to reach similar outcomes that can only benefit the same community to which we all belong. After all is said and done we should remember that "We are," as Herbert Kaufman wrote, "the Argonauts, the seekers of the priceless fleece: The Truth." Piewalker 18:20, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Yehuda Ha-Nasi

I have converted this into a redirect for you Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp ! ^(Whisper...) 16:14, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Please keep up the good work. Das Baz 17:31, 7 October 2006 (UTC)