Talk:Josh Lyman
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Did they mention Josh in the "flashback" episode? On the other pages, we read of Toby teaching at Columbia, Will's seat in the House, C.J. marrying Danny, and so on, but there's no mention of Josh's future here. I didn't see that episode, but I can't imagine that they wouldn't mention him. (arevolvingonob)
- I just checked a transcript of the show. Never mind. (arevolvingonob)
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- Yah. They did not mention him because he seems to be in some position of power relative to the new president, but they don't want to divulge who that is or what he is doing. Rlove 17:42, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
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- All Josh did was mention that the President was there. He could have just been a library invitee like everyone else, or, yes, he could have arrived shortly before Santos and is announcing Santos' arrival. I don't think the thought is that maybe it's Vinick and Josh is working with him. Plus if we saw Josh there, there'd be the invariably "So, how's your wife, Donna?" Which they don't wanna give away.
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[edit] Josh Lyman Rove
I was watching Frontline's report on Karl Rove and I alsways thought that Josh Lyman was to Matt Santos as Karl Rove was to George W. Bush - the architect and campaign leader/manager. --Blue387 21:53, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
- Well, I'm not sure about that, but he is analagous to Karl Rove in that Rove is the current Deputy White House Chief of Staff, a position Josh held for most of the series.
[edit] Rahm Emmanuel
Sorkin has repeatedly stated that no characters are really based on any real life people. Any statement that a person makes saying Josh, Sam, whoever is based on George Stephanapolous, Rahm Emmanuel, or whoever, really ought to be taken as false. I'm removing that.
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- Do you have any proof of him saying this? While of course Josh and Sam are not completely based real people, but are inspired by real politcians and events. If you do a Google search (with for example Sam Seaborn and Stephanopoulos, you will find many references especially pointing out the obvious similarities between Sam and George Stephanopoulos, or C.J. and Dee Dee Meyers. Sorkin has met both personally (the latter was also a consultant for the show) and while he may not have conciously based his characters on them, I'm sure he also did not completely pull his ideas out of thin air, but subconciously let certain aspects of them flow into the characters. Here's something from the West Wing Episode Guide:
"Paul Begala spoke about NBC's "The West Wing," the character loosely-based on him as well as his own experiences in the real West Wing.
When my mom saw the show, she said, 'Son, please tell me you weren't the one who left his pager with the hooker," Begala said, showing the crowd his pager. "Only my mom could think I was the character played by Rob Lowe. So I told her it was George Stephanopoulos and Georgie tells his mom it was me.
- No surprise that there are arrogant politicians who like to think Sorkin thinks they're so great that Aaron Sorkin would base a character on them. Sorkin has specifically said he based no characters on people, including Bartlet himself who so many seem to feel is a Clinton clone.
"Begala: Caucuses about people" by Greg Jerrett January 15, 2004 Daily Nonpareil"
--newsjunkie 15:34, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Sister's death
I don't remember the details but I know it was revealed that Josh's sister died when they were children and the event was a defining moment in his life. Should be mentioned in the article. MK2 01:34, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
- Done --- fdewaele 19 May 2006, 10:44 (CET)
[edit] Biography
This article reads rather like it's trying to be the biography of a real person rather than an article about a character. DJ Clayworth 17:24, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
