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  • lead is too short
  • There are many subsections under a few generic terms.
  • Make more readable to laymen, eliminate fan perspective which is present in parts.
  • Too much weasel wording throughout such as "It is also often argued" and "It is also thought" by whom?
  • needs reliable primary references WP:RS
  • inline citation system
  • "estimated to be $20 billion" - needs source
  • Need fair-use rationales on all images especilly since the John Williams/young George Lucas are dubious.
  • "An example of the space opera genre, the Star Wars story employs archetypal motifs common to both modern science fiction and ancient mythology, as well as the romantic music motifs of those genres." Not only is this not referenced at all... I have no idea what it means. What are the "romantic music motifs" of ancient mythology? Does The Odyssey have musical motifs? Presumably, they were whatever Homer played on his lyre, but I don't think John Williams or anyone else knows what they were. (Is "romantic music motifs... of ancient mythology" a way of saying that John Williams uses a musical vocabulary reminiscent of Strauss and Wagner? Then why not say so?) In any case, this statement is an opinion, so, whose opinion is it and what's the published source for it?
  • "Lucas acknowledges that the plot and characters in the 1958 Japanese film The Hidden Fortress, directed by Akira Kurosawa, were a major inspiration." OK, what's the source for that? It mentions an interview on a DVD. OK, good, let's at least have a citation giving the ASIN for the DVD, the title of the interview, and the approximate number of minutes into the interview where he says this. I've argued that this should count as a source. Others disagree and feel that DVD commentaries do not meet the criteria for WP:CITE or WP:RS, but such a citation would be better than nothing. This entire section on influences is innocent of source citations and rife with weasel wording and unattributed opinions: "It is also thought that the setting for the Star Wars universe came from Isaac Asimov's Foundation Trilogy..." Thought by whom? "some Dune devotees consider Star Wars little more than a campy film adaptation of Herbert's work." Which devotes and where did they publish these opinions? "Some comic book fans have also drawn parallels between Star Wars and Jack Kirby’s epic Fourth World series..." Which fans? Where?
  • "Other sources, including publicly available draft scripts of Star Wars, show that Lucas had an incomplete and quickly-changing conception of the Star Wars story up until the release of the first film in 1977." Great! But, uh, where are those "publicly available" (i.e. "published") draft scripts? Why aren't they cited? Do they meet the standard of "published" in the sense of WP:V? If not, are there good published sources that can be cited in support of this statement?
  • The only real contribution I can make is about the link with Asimov's Foundation series. See here for speculation that lightsabers derive from the force-field penknives of Foundation; here and the references therein for Lucas's lifting the "Galactic Empire" from Asimov; and I. Asimov and Yours, Isaac Asimov for the writer's own thoughts on the matter. Lots of people say that Coruscant was originally named Jhantor, which would make perfectly clear the fact that it is a rip-off of Asimov's Trantor.
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"HOAX" needs to be taken off.

You are all giving Supershadow way more popularity than he needs! He does NOT deserve a place on the official Star Wars frontpage of Wikipedia!

Get a grip.


[edit] 1st Death Star?

Did anyone else notice that there's no mention of the destruction or even existence of the first Death Star in the "Plot" section of the article? In fact, the whole section dealing with episodes 4, 5, and 6 is pretty sparse.

[edit] The Ewok advenures

Changing the subject,I relaise that little or no attention has been given to the Ewok movies made as a spin-off to Return of the Jedi. As a kid I owned the movies with the trilogy on VHS,now I own the original trilogy(that is the 2004 version of A NEW HOPE,the 1997 vesrion of EMPIRE and the 2004 version of JEDI)along with the Ewok movies which is out on DVD both movies one on each side of the disc.But it contains no director's commentry nor does it contain special features.

I was wondering if other fans know what George Lucas said about the movies and the character.The Star Wars databank is not that helpful.

Id like to know if there are books or articles or comments by Lucas regarding the 2 movies.

Thanx.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nadirali (talkcontribs) .

  • Please sign your posts. All you have to do is type ~~~~ thanks. --Merbabu 03:56, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

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