Talk:The Pembroke Hill School

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[edit] SAT scores

I question the neutrality of the statement "unreported in order to preserve academic image" with regard to the average SAT score (on the side bar). I don't doubt that there may truth to it, but I do doubt that that is the school's official response.

I agree. The person who had written that seems to be a current student at PHS, and put false information in the "notable alumni" portion (Homayon Ghassemi, according to a Google search, was a stduent at PHS last year, and is not a "Renowned Classical Scholar"). I have reverted the information and removed the NPOV notice. 134.193.105.140 15:14, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Good eye- I didn't even notice the "Homayon Ghassemi" part Feline Nursery 15:26, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Introductory descriptor

65.28.31.189 seems to have a problem with any mention of the Ivy League in the introduction to the article; he also deleted the replacement descriptor denoting "prestigious" colleges, which was lifted directly from the MICDS article. Interestingly, the descriptor that PHS sends many of its graduates to Ivy League colleges has been a part of the article nearly since its inception several years, and to date none of the many contributors have had a problem with it - presumably because to most Kansas Citians this simply seems obvious. Instead, however, to placate 65.28.31.189, "statistical proof" seems necessary. On average, PHS sends approximately 10% of its graduates to Ivy League colleges, some years more (some years FAR more) and some years less. Without question, this rate is far higher than any other secondary school in the Kansas City metropolitan area. Accordingly, I have replaced the descriptor. Let it be. This new Wikipedian is its sole protester, and the protest is unwarranted. Could there be an agenda behind the protest? 65.28.2.218 12:30, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

WOAH, 65.26.95.117 deleted the above entry. That is a BIG Wikipedia no-no. Please don't do it again or you will have to be reported. Thank you. 65.28.2.218 11:49, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

And the quarrel continues

It appears as if 65.28.2.218 is affiliated with Pembroke Hill. It appears as if the information obtained was obtained by some sort of an employee or alumnus/ae. The Ivy League clause seems to be a point of vehement contention? I find myself asking why? Unless the aforementioned wikipedian was somehow deeply affiliated with Pembroke Hill, then why the dispute? (As a Kansas Citian I can attest, Pembroke Hill's Ivy League placement is not outstanding, in fact other schools in the area such as Rockhurst and Shawnee Mission East also have numerous graduates attend Ivy League schools. So I must, in this instance, beseech 65.28.2.218 to reveal his or her affiliation with the school. If there is none, then why such a conflict? Could there be an agenda behind the protest?

All I ever suggested was that you see the discussion page and respond accordingly. It took you two months to do so; there was no "quarrel" until then, just you violating Wikipedia rules. Now this can be properly discussed. No other school in the Kansas City Metropolitan Area, be it Rockhurst High School or any school in the Shawnee Mission School District, regularly sends 10% or more (some years FAR more) of its graduates to colleges in the Ivy League. There is no agenda here, only the pursuit of accurate representation (and as far as "agendas" go, I find it interesting that this seems to be the only Wikipedia page you have ever edited). The sentence was lifted directly from the MICDS article (MICDS, John Burroughs School, and Pembroke Hill being the only schools of their sort in Missouri). Interestingly, the MICDS article (after a similar debate) now says "prestigious" four-year schools. Would you prefer that this article's phraseology be changed to that? 65.28.2.218 05:25, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

That wasn't my question....

Funny, you never answered my question? Are you affiliated with the school?

65.26.95.117, you ought to type "65.28.2.218 01:16, 31 August 2006 (UTC)" at the end of your posts in order to sign and date them. That's Wikipedia protocol, too. Obviously you have very little experience with Wikipedia. By using an anonymous IP address, I am ensuring that I don't have to reveal anything at all about myself. Therefore, I choose not to. This is also per Wikipedia policy. You did not respond to my contentions above. You are not discussing this matter in an manner consistent with Wikipedia policy. If this continues I will have to refer the matter to an administrator. You refuse to enter into a proper discussion with me on this. You instead insist on having a discussion about "me," which I refuse to do, as is my right. Therefore, under Wikipedia guidelines, your edits constitute vandalism. Either enter into a proper discussion and respond to my response to you (and sign it, too), or I will refer this matter to a Wikipedia administrator. Until then, I have reverted your vandalism of this article. 65.28.2.218 01:16, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Laughable

Really don't want to answer that question do you? I guess that seems only logical in your case, for if you chose to your loudly proclaimed credibility would be somewhat diminished now wouldn't it? In tripping all over yourself to immediately issue a virtual "no commment" (With more than enough circumlocution) you have only helped to illustrate my point.

I am allowed not to reveal personal information. You seem to misunderstand what Wikipedia discussion pages are all about. They are not for discussing the authors, but rather the edits (and prospective edits) to the articles. If you wish to continue to edit this article, please respond to my good faith response to you above. Because you refuse to discuss the accuracy or need for your edits, and refuse to answer my point, instead insisting on discussing "me," your edits are vandalism. Also, PLEASE SIGN YOUR POSTS! To do so, put four "tildas" (i.e. four of these things --> ~) at the end of each post. Thanks. 65.28.2.218 05:41, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

BTW, since you're new to all this, here are some Wikipedia policy pages that you might find of interest. Help:Talk page, Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages, Wikipedia:Civility, and Wikipedia:No personal attacks. Hope that helps. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]]) .

Deflection!!! ^^^^^^

I am not sure what that means. Please stop vandalizing this page, and please sign your posts. Thank you. 65.28.2.218 02:11, 1 September 2006 (UTC)