User talk:Baku87

Contents 1 selamun aleykum 2 Image Tagging for Image:Kish_Church.jpg 3 Image Tagging for Image:Mosque_in_Baku.jpg 4 Image tag hint: things you may have taken 5 Azeri project 6 С Праздником! 7 Photo copyrights (again) 8 Hello from Georgia 9 Wikiproject Azeri 10 Completely apolitical copyright request 11 Image at Azerbaijani people 12 Image of Khojaly Massacre 13 Regarding Azerbaijani people 14 Question 15 BTW 16 License tagging for Image:Sattar Khan.jpg 17 Hey 18 Regarding the picture you put up in Azeris 19 Image:Sattar Khan.jpg and Image:TabrizRevolutionaries.JPG 20 Please Do not Make Personal Attacks and Be Civil 21 Nakhichevan photographs 22 Azerbaijan SSR State Anthem 23 Hi 24 copyvio? 25 Summaries 26 Nakhichevan 27 One of several versions ... 28 National parks / National parks of Azerbaijan 29 Logo 30 Attacking to Turkic peoples espcially to Turks, Azeriz, please take a look 31 Hi 32 Wikipedia:WikiProject Turkic 33 Your edit to Wikipedia:WikiProject Turkic 34 Reply 35 Logo copyright 36 Azerbaijanis article and Pishevari 37 Azerbaijani national heroes 38 Image copyright problem with Image:Azi_Aslanov.jpg 39 Stub templates and categories 40 March Days 41 de:Wikipedia:WikiProjekt Türkei

[edit] selamun aleykum

Merhaba,

Ben bir Avşar Türküyüm. Mesajını bir arkadaşımın sayfasından okudum. Bir sorunun olursa, yardım istemekten çekinme dostum.

[edit] Image Tagging for Image:Kish_Church.jpg

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[edit] Image Tagging for Image:Mosque_in_Baku.jpg

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[edit] Image tag hint: things you may have taken

Hi Baku87, one more suggestion for photos you're uploading with your permission. As I mentioned on the Azeri Wikiproject page, you always need to add a tag in addition to your link to your own permission page. If you ever upload a picture that you took, you can add {{cc-by-sa-2.5}} to the bottom, or one of the very wide variety on this page: Wikipedia:Image copyright tag. -- Bobak 18:08, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

I asked a different user about this once, he deleted all my pictures and I placed that permission link for him. He said to me to use give that link in the pictures from now on. My permission link is:

www.euro-caspian.com/permission.htm Baku87 23:04, 15 April 2006 (UTC)Baku87

The problem with just using that link is that it doesn't stop bots. There are a number of automated bots that troll the photos on Wikipedia (OrphanBot is the most notorious) and place automatic deletion notices based on whether or not the bot "sees" a tag. Since it's only looking for tags, it will not know what that link is and simply mark the photo for deletion. That bot, and others like it, are what delete the vast majority of photos on Wikipedia. Using both would be a simple cut'n'paste and rid yourself of any future issues. Just looking out for others. -- Bobak 21:08, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Azeri project

Baku87 , Thanks for your message on my discussion page. Nice to see this kind of organized efforts going on behaf of our millions. The over all partisipation of Azeries from North and specially South Azerbajan does not seem to be very high. Hopefully with the availability of internet this change. Sağolun

PS:If had a time visit Azeri Vikipedia. Mehrdad 13:58, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Yeah your absolutely right about that, hopefully Azeris will realise that alot of propaganda is written and used against them in the internet. By the way if you find some good international sources then please also add them in the project page. By the way Mehrdad which region are you from? Take care. Baku87 20:20, 30 April 2006 (UTC)Baku87

[edit] С Праздником!

--Kuban Cossack 00:53, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Thats great but what did we win? Baku87 07:55, 9 May 2006 (UTC)Baku87

Independence, peace and prosperity. Rembember that Azerbaijan and Baku was one of Hitler's main targets in Barbarossa, and he did come close to taking them. As much as a million Azerbaijanis fought against the Nazi agressor, and 58,400 paid the ultimate price for the defence of their homeland. Many were given the highest award, the Hero of the Soviet Union. During the war Azerbaijani oil also supplied the lifeblood to Soviet planes and vehicles - petrol. Those facts are not empty and it is worth rembering all those veterans, because I doubt if the fascist regime would have had any sympathies for Azerbaijanis. --Kuban Cossack 16:04, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

I know about Azerbaijan her role in the WOII, the Battle of Stalingrad was also about Baku. Your right but man 20 million comrades died and half of them were civilians, that was a damn high price to pay. My grandfather and his brother also fought in the war, my grandpa was a tankcommander during the war and he lost his arm and all his best friends, his brother was a spy in Spain but he suddenly got lost in Spain and was never found or heard of him again. Do you know anyone personal who experienced the war, maybe you would like to tell me about him or her? Also Kuban maybe we should make some sort of a stub of this star for all the former Soviet Republic members what do you think? Baku87 17:57, 9 May 2006 (UTC)Baku87

Of course I do, both of my grandparents fought. From my mother's line, my grandfather was a frontal recons man, before every atack it was his job to crawl right up to the German frontlines and instal remote-operated smoke screens which right before the atack would be then activated and our tanks would have valuable time to approach the German positions and pop out of the smoke right in front of them. Five times he got wounded, but lived on. My fathers father was the commander of a Cossack company and started at 17 in Karachaevo-Cherkessia, when they employed old Cossack tactics of running down from the mountains onto the German columns along with the Cherkess people, then he participated in purging the Germans from our steppes and then along the South of Ukraine went all the way into Vienna (here he is third row fourth from the left at the famous victory parade in 1945). As for World War II articles then sure, definetely. I would have expanded on the topic on History of Azerbaijan, but unfortunately it is locked. --Kuban Cossack 18:45, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for sharing your story very interessting, you have a real kick ass grandfather, but then again you Cossacks always have been fighter people havent you. Baku87 16:27, 11 May 2006 (UTC)Baku87

[edit] Photo copyrights (again)

Hi Baku87, the photos you are uploading with the tag that you have given permission to have it used off of your website have me wondering if you had the right to use them on your website to begin with. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Khojaly_survivor.jpg and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Khojaly_Genocide.jpg (among others) are scanned from a magazine and in black and white, respectively. Did you actually take these photos? Did you get permission from the photographers to use them? They are clearly not old enough to have had the copyright expire. Please clarify this issue, as I am tempted to put a tag for removal due to copyright violation. Now personally, I am sure that the authors would not mind your using them on this site, but that is not the same as actually giving permission. --RaffiKojian 02:52, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

I know you would love nothing else then to see these pictures to be removed but all the pictures are from my own site and I have already dealt with that issue. All the pictures are from the Heydar Aliyev Foundation were I have permission to use their materials. I already dealt with this once and all my pictures got removed, later I was able to proof them that I have permission.Baku87 13:24, 12 May 2006 (UTC)Baku87

Aw, don't be so paranoid - I just noticed that a number of pictures you have supplied (not just these) didn't seem likely to have been taken by you, so your release of rights seemed a bit strange to me. You have not archived older conversations here, so there is no way I could know that this has been addressed properly. I suggest you create archive pages - and even suggest you leave a note about the photos on this page at all times. I will assume (in good faith) that the Heydar Aliyev Foundation had the rights to the photos. This same issue had come up with Armenian Genocide photos (which are 90 years old), so when I saw such recent photos, which it seemed highly unlikely you had taken, I did feel the need to bring up the issue of copyright. Later, --RaffiKojian 04:39, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

How sad that politics spill into what is considered proper copyright citation. I've been helping Baku87 keep these photos online --he initially didn't put a tag alongside the links to the external links so OrphanBot, etc would auto delete them. Now, unless you can prove your claims, why not keep your issues with Baku87 to whatever content Armenians/Azeris/Turks and their allies like to "discuss" (really, it's quite entertaining to the rest of us). -- Bobak 18:25, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm happy to provide you with entertainment (that's why I'm here on Wikipedia), but what claim specifically are you requesting I prove? --RaffiKojian 20:55, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

We're all entertainers, really... but I specifically refer to your points in your first salvo. If you want to start tagging his photos, please have sufficient proof because I will be on the other side arguing for their remaining here. --Bobak 21:03, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

I see, but since Baku87 had already addressed my concerns (see his reply above), I am satisfied. Sorry. --RaffiKojian 03:36, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

In that case accept my apology as well, Wikipedia makes a person a little cynical sometimes. I also apologize to Baku87 who is "hosting" our conversation :-) --Bobak 18:24, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

No worries, Bobak. I certainly know how WP can make one a bit cynical at times! --RaffiKojian 02:58, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

No problem, by the way Bobak thanks for helping me out with the licence issue. Baku87 18:13, 15 May 2006 (UTC)Baku87

[edit] Hello from Georgia

Hi. I just wanted to say thanks for voting on the Wikipedia Project/Georgia topic and for your contributions to Wikipedia. It would be good if we can work together to standardize some of the pages about the Caucasus just to give the readers a better idea about the region in general. With Best Regards, D.Papuashvili 17:26, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Hey no problem bro, thank you guys for trying to show a better perspective of Caucasus Baku87 09:21, 18 May 2006 (UTC)Baku87

[edit] Wikiproject Azeri

Hi, thanks, I'm also looking forward to work in this project--Hattusili 21:34, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Completely apolitical copyright request

Hi Baku, I don't have any business at all on the Caucasus articles, though I do know that contributers like you have been doing a good job on them. Please don't take what I am saying as the result of any hidden agenda! I have been getting wound up by a range dodgy, dubious, and false copyright claims all over Wikipedia, and now I have found by chance a couple of your pictures which are (I am sure) completely legitimate but which look just as bad on first discovery. You need to cover your back a little better :-) Image:Khojaly Genocide.jpg, for instance, has a "rights irrevocably removed tag" used on it, so at least it is tagged, and you source it to your own website, which is also a good step. The critical thing is that you still haven't shown that you had the right to put it on your own website. If I took any image I wanted, put it on my geocities site, then pointed a link to it from Wikipedia to show how "mine" it was, nobody would take me seriously. Of course, I believe you haven't actually done that, but it looks no different to an outside observer (like the overworked and wikistressed-out people who run the images for deletion and copyright violations pages - they do a fantastic job, against very hard odds, trying to keep this encyclopedia as genuinely "free" as possible, and in return get a lot of grief from people whose photos get deleted). If you are using the material on your website by permission, then you ought to say so (this is what happens in Wikipedia when we use media material from a 3rd party who licensed it to us after a request for permission - records are kept of the emails and they are available for display). One place you ought display this is the "permission" page on your own website. Another is actually on your uploaded files themselves (because your website may not be there forever, but Wikipedia should be!). But take care: you clearly are not the owner of the images if you are just using them by permission, unless you have actually had ownership transferred to you as well. You need to publish very clearly the exact terms you have been allowed to use those media under. If somebody has just licensed them for use on Wikipedia, they have to be deleted (per Jimbo Wales - "Wikipedia-only" permissions are no longer acceptable), and similarly if they were licensed specifically for your site. If they genuinely have had "all rights released" then (and only then) is the current template correct, though it wouldn't be correct to say the uploader is the owner. If you need to go back and ask for wider permission, you may be able to get the pictures released under a slightly more restrictive license instead (like GFDL or Creative Commons). Anyway, you really must publish the exact terms of the license that was granted so it is possible to check which template to be used. And it would help very much if you could show that the person you are negotiating with actually is the owner of the copyright!

Please remember: images and other media are guilty until proven innocent because there's really no other way round it can be. If you are making a claim that those works no longer have copyright restrictions on them, then you need to prove it - it's not for a would-be deleter to prove the other way round. Even though we assume good faith (and I am 100% definitely assuming good faith - after all the effort you've been through, it would be weird for you to be deliberately uploading material you know you don't have the rights to) it's true that a lot of people (in good faith) get the law wrong, so we delete it anyway. It doesn't matter how many people vote in your support to say your faith is good - claiming that something that clearly (under normal circumstances) belongs to someone else is actually yours to give away is something you need good evidence to back yourself up with. It's a bit like being caught handing out the crown jewels to poor children... a very worthy act, and 100% legitimate if the King had privately decided to give them to you to do what you will with, but you shouldn't be surprised if people who weren't in the room at the time demand to know exactly what the King ("if you ever met him at all", say they) did tell you you could do with the jewels, and not believe your word for it. And in this wiki, there will be people (and you have met them and they have probably annoyed the hell out of you) asking those questions not because they have any deep moral desire to uphold the laws of property, but because they don't want certain things to get out into the public eye. You're doing yourself, and the wider world that wants and needs to see these things for ourselves, a great favour if you take the care to get those copyright statuses dealt with thoroughly and publicly, so all can see and nobody can criticise or take them away. Simply a bona fide and agendaless request, TheGrappler 14:42, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

All my pictures on my site are from the Heydar Aliyev Foundation, who's headquarters is in Baku, Azerbaijan. Even the tekst in my site is from them! I have permission of them to use their pictures and teksts, why else do you think I upload these pictures, I wouldnt have uploaded if I knew they were gonna be deleted, it would be pointless. Im not sure how to proof this to you as I dont have real proof at the moment. But here is a picture of the Heydar Aliyev Foundation headquarters in Baku, so you know it really exists and here is their official site. Im going to visit Azerbaijan this summer, I actually got some real plans but to solve this problem I will try to arrange some proof. What kind of proof would be enough? Baku87 19:55, 31 May 2006 (UTC)Baku87

Maybe just a scanned letter from the director of the foundation that writes that they allow the use of the images for educational purposes (like Wikipedia) just so long as the author of the source is credited. That and probably a timestamp on it. By the way, the word "teksts" is written "text" and the term is both singular and plural.--MarshallBagramyan 15:41, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, try and get let a letter! Thinking about this: it would definitely not be enough for them to agree for use for educational purposes. They would have to agree for commercial purposes too, and allow the photographs to be manipulated or edited in any way. This is part of what makes Wikipedia a "free content" encyclopedia - the content can be reused by anybody (including for-profit organizations) for any purpose. What you really could do with is for them to release under a license like the Creative Commons. One other problem (sorry, yet another...) - why do they have the copyright to license in the first place? They may have collected the physical photographs, but why do they actually have the copyright to the photographs, which usually belongs to the photographer? I can collect photographs of a famous event, make a gallery of them for people to visit, but without owning any of the copyrights, which would mean I could not license them to anybody else. So, basically there are two things you need to show: (1) the institute actually has the copyright (not obvious) and (2) they allow people to use the photographs under some kind of free license (not a "for educational purposes" license). Hope this helps. TheGrappler 01:51, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image at Azerbaijani people

Hi Baku,

I noticed you changed the image back. The problem is, we need to have an Iranian Azeri in the picture, and most editors agree that we should have Khamenei. Perhaps you could raise your concerns on the talk page before changing the image again, thanks. —Khoikhoi 22:18, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

I thought it was vandalism, anyways Im going to request to change it into a female, thanks! Baku87 09:04, 1 June 2006 (UTC)Baku87

Ok, feel free to make a comment at Talk:Azerbaijani people. We'll see what others have to say. —Khoikhoi 01:25, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image of Khojaly Massacre

Baku, do you have a higher quality image showing/symbolizing the Khojaly massacre than the current one we have on the Nagorno-Karabakh war article? If so, then we should upload it to the article.--MarshallBagramyan 04:41, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes I have a couple better pictures but Im still awaiting permission for usage Baku87 20:40, 10 June 2006 (UTC)Baku87

[edit] Regarding Azerbaijani people

Hello Baku. Thanks for the welcome! I believe Grandmaster contacted you, or will soon, about some great pictures you have that we could use for the article. I specified which pictures I believe (4 of them) would look great in the Azeris article. Let me once they're uploaded and ready to be put into the article. Cheers. Tombseye 21:06, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much! I'm going to add these pictures right now. I'll see what else might be needed, but if you can take pictures of historical places and, if possible, Lezgians and other minority groups as those pictures could useful to many articles in wikipedia, that'd be great. Other than that have fun! ;) Tombseye 21:28, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Question

Hi, do you have any images that you could upload of the village Xınalıq? I'd like to start an article about it.

BTW, I hope there are no hard feelings about the dispute we got in over the image. Ciao. —Khoikhoi 18:34, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

I have been to Xınalıq once and I did take a couple of pictures but it will take time to find those. And dont worry no hard feelings, I hope you agree on the stage point. Baku87 18:39, 11 June 2006 (UTC)Baku87

By the way hard city there, heavy air not to mention cold air easily -20 celcius, it almost hurts to breath, my longs were full of snow. Its best to take stops at other locations before going from Baku to Xınalıq directly cuz the huge climate difference might be to strong. Baku87 18:51, 11 June 2006 (UTC)Baku87

Hmmmm, I hear they speak a different language threre, but when looking at this map I don't see it. Is Quba the region where the Tats and Mountain Jews live? —Khoikhoi 19:03, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

I dont know about a different language they spoke normal Azeri with me but the location is pretty isolated so it would surprise me if they speak a addentional language or perhaps Azeri is the addentional language. Also I found the picture but these are not take by me though a friend of my gave them to me, and offcourse I have his permission to publish them. Baku87 17:42, 13 June 2006 (UTC)Baku87

These are pretty good pictures but Im getting a error everytime I try to upload: The file you uploaded seems to be empty. This might be due to a typo in the file name. Please check whether you really want to upload this file.

Any suggestions?Baku87 17:49, 13 June 2006 (UTC)Baku87

Ök I solved the problem, it seemed that wikimedia is discriminating the word Xinaliq :P I wasnt able to upload when the picture was named Xinaliq, but its fixed now, see the pics at:

• Xinaliq People
• Xinaliq residents
• The only road to Xinaliq
• Xinaliq Village
• Mountains of Xinaliq
• Xinaliq view

Wow, those are amazing! I've added the images to my gallery so I can eventually create an article. :D Thanks again. —Khoikhoi 03:38, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Im glad you like it :) Baku87 22:40, 16 June 2006 (UTC)Baku87

[edit] BTW

The term "Iranian Azerbaijan" should be used rather than "South Azerbaijan" as the latter is too political, while the former is purely geographic. —Khoikhoi 20:05, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

I dont use the term South Azerbaijan on wikimedia maybe I made some mistake but I meant Iranian Azerbaijan. Baku87 20:10, 11 June 2006 (UTC)Baku87

You used it right here. :p BTW, are you the webmaster of Travel-Images.org? That site has some great images. —Khoikhoi 20:13, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Ow dang well it goes automatic cuz we call it Guney Azerbaycan which means South Azerbaijan. Im not the webmaster of travel-images.com but I have contributed alot to that site how else do you think Azerbaijan has got one of the most pictures (about 15 pages) :P Baku87 20:18, 11 June 2006 (UTC)Baku87

Heh, it seems that there are too many pictures there. Later. —Khoikhoi 23:39, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] License tagging for Image:Sattar Khan.jpg

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[edit] Hey

Hey, Baku,

I'm an Armenian and I've come to wish you good will. Hopefully, this whole Karabakh conflict will be resolved someday. I found this online. Have you heard it before? -- Clevelander 22:34, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I wish you the best to! Also I have heard that song before, thats Rashid Behbudov Baku87 15:50, 21 June 2006 (UTC)Baku87

[edit] Regarding the picture you put up in Azeris

Hello Baku. Nice picture you put up in Azeris, but can you identify who the couple are specifically? The source just goes to the Torino Olypmics and I couldn't find the couple. If you could put in their names that would help a lot. Thanks! Tombseye 14:23, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

The female is Kristin Fraser who is of American ethnicy with Azerbaijani nationality and the male is Igor Lukanin he's of Azerbaijani ethnicy and naionality (but born in Russia). But I didnt report the ethnicy in the thumbtekst though. By the way Tombseye I got this real nice picture of Azeri dance, this one gives a much better view of the dance then the currect one in the Azerbaijani people article, should I replace that picture? Baku87 14:53, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Hello Baku. Okay that's fine. Although you might want to keep the people on the page ethnic Azeris (which Igor is and Kristin isn't), as other editors will wonder as well who they are. I mean since the page is about ethnic Azeris, it could create problems in the future. Wow, a better dance picture than the one already there? I gotta see this as I really like the current dance picture! Post it on the discussion page in Azeris. If it's a lot better than we should definitely replace the current one. Tombseye 21:45, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Sattar Khan.jpg and Image:TabrizRevolutionaries.JPG

Sorry to moan about copyright yet again (see above... I put in a reply) but Image:Sattar Khan.jpg and Image:TabrizRevolutionaries.JPG seem to have the wrong copyright tag on it. The one you have used only works if you can prove the photographer died before 1905. Since the photographer isn't identified, and given the historical information available, this seems highly unlikely. Copyright goes back a long, long time in some instances. It is possible these are public domain for another reason but "photographer died 100 years ago" will almost certainly not be it :) TheGrappler 01:57, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Dang your right about that but I only uploaded the first picture and I do know that the exact same photo of Sattar Khan was released in USSR. I have putted this tag up and to get it done I have already asked permission for public useage just waiting reponse now. Baku87 07:45, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Here's something else that might help with the Sattar Khan and also others maybe: [1] Also, I believe the retroactive laws only apply to the past 50 years in the former Soviet Union. In the case of Sattar Khan and the revolutionaries, this may apply as well. Tombseye 18:15, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately even the "PD-Soviet" template is highly disputed - the bad news is that anything published in the USSR is considered as co-published in all its successor states. Georgia applies the standard "70 years after creator's death" even though Russia has a more liberal release date. However, since this was a picture taken and published in Imperial Russia, I don't know whether only the modern Russian law applies or whether Georgian law does too (which would be silly, but the law is an ass; if the USSR was the successor state to Imperial Russia it may follow that Georgia is an indirect successor state to Imperial Russia too!) TheGrappler 11:45, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Actually, Russia is the only legal successor to USSR. I know about the dispute on tags, but I think we should employ a more liberal approach to this, since no one ever filed any complaints in any court of law about wikipedia images from former USSR. Regards, Grandmaster 11:58, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please Do not Make Personal Attacks and Be Civil

What do you make such a judgment on? Is it based on the fact that I say Azaris and Armenians are equal and all humans are equal? Or is it base don the fact that I say people's suffering should not be exploited and politized? There suffering should be respected. This is an uncivil attack [[2]]. Also please sign user:Baku87 I am pretty sure you know how to sign your name. Anonomous comments, especially when uncivil are actually trolling. That reminds me how am I trolling? You have made an uncivil attack against me, user:Baku87 . You have no authority or grounds to make such claims especially wants saying a am anti-Azari when I myself am a Azari. 69.196.164.190

Urgh.. my bad I thought you were User:72.57.230.179 who has been constantly anti-Azeri. I checked your talk page and it looks like some other people have seen you as User:72.57.230.179 aswell. You just reminded me instantly of User:72.57.230.179 I guess IP names are just confussing :P my bad really, no hard feelings I hope. Baku87 12:23, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

THat is okay; like I said I was acting in good faith and I guess user:Grandmasters accusations fueled the fire. I did complain to the admins. after, but that is fine as long as it was a one time thing. No one is perfect. Aplology accepted. I am glad you are mature enough to apologize for you mistakes. We might al not agree, but we can be civil to each other and agree to disagree. Thank you. 69.196.164.190

[edit] Nakhichevan photographs

Hey Baku, how are those Nakhichevan photographs coming along? I'm enthusiastic to see them. -- Clevelander 20:29, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

I wont be able to travel to Nakhichevan, instead my friend is in Nakhichevan right now he'll be sending me the photos of some natural park and mountains. I think he will return august or something like that, I'll ask for some pictures right now Baku87 09:46, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Azerbaijan SSR State Anthem

Hey Baku,

I'm working on translating the Soviet state anthems of the republics from the South Caucasus. So far, I've been able to track down or translate the Georgian and Armenian anthems, but I've had no luck with the one from Azerbaijan (a really enjoyable and energetic piece, in my opinion). If it wouldn't be any trouble could you translate it from Azeri to English? The article can be found here: Anthem of Azerbaijan SSR Thanks! -- Clevelander 02:49, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hi

Hey Baku,

First off, welcome back. :) I have to say however that I reverted your edit to Azerbaijani people because they appeared to be valid articles relating to the subject. Remember that Wikipedia should include all POVs, including that of the Iranian government. ;) —Khoikhoi 06:30, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

If so then it should also include the other 2 theories (Turkic and Caucasian origin) and besides there is already a redirect to those pages, including only the Iranian side in the see also part doesnt seem really neutral dont you agree Baku87 21:18, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Separate pages for the other theories dont't exist - you're welcome to create them. —Khoikhoi 21:23, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] copyvio?

Can you look pnto the Talk:History_of_religions_in_Azerbaijan#Copyright_violation_.3F and clear the matter? abakharev 01:41, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

This matter was brought up in March 2006, and Wikipedia procedures were not followed. Please ensure that proper GFDL indicators are placed on GFDL material on the orignal web site(s). Is the original English version from website, A: http://www.euro-caspian.com/religions_history.htm or B: http://www.azerbaijan.az/_GeneralInfo/_TraditionReligion/_traditionReligion_e.html ? Also, while clearing up the copyright problem, could you look into the source(s) issue? Bejnar 03:19, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

The pictures and text from my site comes from azerbaijan.az and offcourse I have permission for this and I also got the permission to use them on wikimedia. Just so you know it azerbaijan.az is owned by the Heydar Aliyev Foundation and Im a member of that foundation and thats how I got the permission Baku87 21:18, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Summaries

When editing an article on Wikipedia there is a small field labeled "Edit summary" under the main edit-box. It looks like this:

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I forget that everytime, but fill it in whenever I can, is it required? Baku87 18:00, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

It's "strongly encouraged". Helps highlight what you're changing. Even a brief "typo fix", or "fmt headings" short comment is good. Best regards, --Oscarthecat 18:03, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

I understand your point, I'll try my best to fill it in everytime, but its so small and I have a 19inch screen so I kinda overlook it sometimes, thanks for the reminder. Baku87 18:05, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nakhichevan

Baku, did your friend come through on those pctures of Nakhichevan? -- Clevelander 21:46, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes he did, I'll upload the pictures as soon as I find them, but its not what you would expect of Nakhichevan though. Baku87 07:43, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm anxious to see these pictures. Have you found them yet? -- Clevelander 01:14, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] One of several versions ...

	The Bustard is an exquisite fowl With minimal reason to growl It escapes what would be Illegitimacy By the grace of a fortunate vowel
—Variously attributed

(see Ag-Gol National Park). Mr Stephen 22:39, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the correction buddy :) Baku87 14:32, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] National parks / National parks of Azerbaijan

Hi. You don't need to add "National parks" as a category to articles already categorised as "National parks of Azerbaijan", because the category "National parks of Azerbaijan" is already in any case a subcategory of the category "National parks", so it doesn't give any additional information. Best wishes, HeartofaDog 09:09, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Logo

The new logo looks better. But unfortunately on the image page it reads "Please ask for permission before using this logo," which, copyright-wise, seems to be incompatible with wikipedia's guidelines. Peter O. (Talk) 12:33, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Well by that I mean I dont want anyone to edit that logo, I edited my describtion but can you correct the copyright that fits to it please. Baku87 14:34, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Attacking to Turkic peoples espcially to Turks, Azeriz, please take a look

Salam, Məndə Azəricəyi orta seviyyede başa düşürəm faqat İnglisça yazayim sən bana Azərica cevap yazabilərsin. There are some pan-Iranists put incorrect informations to the Turko-Iranian, Turkic peoples, Pan-Turkism, List of Azerbaijanis, Iranian Theory Regarding Azeri's articles and more but we wanted help from Wikiproject Turkey, we some Turks try to stop them but I think Wikiproject Azerbaijan should battle with them also. Regards- Zaparojdik 22:23, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Hello, yes we are aware of the Iranian POV agenda thats been developing here on wikipedia, several of WikiProject Azeri members have been activily discussing with the Iranian members to halt the POV. But I agree there must be more and better coorperation between the Turkic people, I have just recently created WikiProject Turkic, in order to have smoother coorperation between Turkic people we should work under one WikiProject. Im still working on the pages of WikiProject Turkic any help would be great. Remember brother we are Bir millet iki devlet Baku87 19:36, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hi

Well, good to be here :) I will try to help out as mush as I can. Kolay Gelsin! Baristarim 22:50, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Turkic

This is to advise you that the project page mentioned above is being considered for deletion according to wikipedia policy. Please feel free to follow the links at the page and participate in the discussion. Badbilltucker 13:39, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your edit to Wikipedia:WikiProject Turkic

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Its submitted for deletion which I agree so why waste time? Baku87 15:10, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reply

I am sorry it took me a while to reply.. I agree with your above statement that there needs to be better cooperation between the Turkic people.. I just signed my name to WP Turkic, but then learned that it was being considered for deletion, why?? In any case we will have to do with respective WP countries then :)).. I also created a page yesterday called Turkey-Azerbaijan relations, but it still needs a whole lot of improvement - I only copied the relevant text from foreign relations of turkey article.. Cheers! Baristarim 00:44, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Logo copyright

I'm sorry, but you need to allow the logo to be edited by anyone for any purpose, not just for this WikiProject. Otherwise it could be deleted or another person could just create a different logo. Peter O. (Talk) 01:28, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Azerbaijanis article and Pishevari

Hi,

There is a dispute on the Pishevari issue on the Azerbaijanis article. Some editors want to remove any reference to info. from Encyclopaedia of Islam regarding linguistic grievances of Azeris, as one of the factors of Pishevari's movement. I would appreciate if you join in the discussion on Talk Page.Heja Helweda 05:43, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Could you perhaps giv eme the direct link to the discussion as I dont know were it is Baku87 21:39, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi again, Here is the link for discussions on Pishevari.[3]Heja Helweda 23:03, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Also here is the link from Encyclopaedia of Islam; Tabriz Article. The following is the paragraph removed by some editors:

In 1945, Iranian Azeris led by Jafar Pishevari, declared autonomy (Azerbaijan People's Government) in Azeri populated areas of north-western Iran. This local government capitalized on some genuine local grievances against centralization policies during Reza Shah's reign and discrimination against the use of Azeri language [4]. The autonomous government was based in Tabriz and issued its own bank notes [5],[6]. It also implemented land and labor reforms, and made Azeri the official language of government and education[7]. In the following years, Tabriz and Iranian Azerbaijan suffered from the profound suspicions of the Tehran government regarding secessionist sentiment[8].Heja Helweda 23:15, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Azerbaijani national heroes

Can you please explain why you removed the AfD notice from Azerbaijani national heroes [9]. Thanks, Sarah Ewart (Talk) 23:19, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Could you perhaps explain to me why you or some anti-Azeri guy is constantly deleting this article, there is nothing wrong with it Baku87 14:22, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Azi_Aslanov.jpg

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[edit] Stub templates and categories

Hi - a couple of stub types which you have created have been nominated for deletion at WP:SFD. Stub templates and categories should be proposed prior to creation at WP:WSS/P, so that they can be discussed and checked to see whether they conform to the standards and hierarchies maintained for stub types. In the case of the two types you made (which were not proposed), they use very vague criteria of type which have previously been rejected: the definition of what could classify as "nature" or "culture" makes these stub types unworkable for most practical purposes, and neither fts comfortably within the hierarchy of stub types. Furthermore, it is unlikely at present that either type has the required threshold number of articles necessary for a stub category to be viable. Feel free to comment on the proposed deletion at WP:SFD and please, in future, propose any new stub types you wish to create, as per the instructions at WP:STUB and at the top of Category:Azerbaijan stubs. Grutness...wha? 23:00, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] March Days

I welcome you to discuss your changes on the talk page of the March Days article. I want you to see my rationale behind my recent edits as well as the recent name change I made. Kindest regards, Clevelander 00:29, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] de:Wikipedia:WikiProjekt Türkei

Merhaba und Hallo, wir würden uns sehr freuen, wenn wir Dich auf unserem neuen de:Portal:Türkei willkommen heißen dürfen - Schau doch mal rein!

Lust am Artikel schreiben? Dann hilf uns Türkei-bezogene Artikel zu schreiben und zu verbessern bei de:Wikipedia:WikiProjekt Türkei!

--Ferdi Öztürk 21:03, 16. Okt. 2006 (CEST)