Talk:Deobandi
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The Taliban do not follow a 'severe' form of the Deoband school. It is the normal form, inshAllah. There is a difference between fundamentalism and extremism. The Taliban are not considered extremists, despite what Western media would like to portray.
I hate to remove honorifics ("PBUH", etc) that were placed by a devout Muslim, but they seem inappropriate for a neutral encyclopaedia. Of course, this person has a nasty habit of censoring articles on Islaam, to the point that maveric149 banned their IP, so I'm not too inclined to be sympathetic. — Toby 19:09 Aug 4, 2002 (PDT)
Also, we need to get that Arabic properly transliterated. Wikipedia is Latin-1 by default, and this isn't. We have to use HTML character entities (&...;) instead. But I have no idea what the Arabic letters are supposed to be, so I can't do it. — Toby 19:09 Aug 4, 2002 (PDT)
There are way too many links here. Most of them are irrelevant to this specific subject. I'm inclined to remove all but the first few to be added. Wikipedia is not a link depository. -- Toby 13:34 May 14, 2003 (UTC)
I removed the honorifics, and most of the links. A lot of them seemed to be anti-Shia in nature, and this would question the POV of the article. DigiBullet 21:56, 8 Feb 2004 (UTC)
The Deobandies do not have Wahhabi tendencies, Wahabbi's are way different than Deobandies and are not to be confused as the same at all. The Wahabbi's are also know as Ahl-e-Hadith but the Deobandis are Ahl-e-Sunnat.
Most of the links were to websites of Deobandi Madaris, so I dont see how they were anti-shia. There was however 1 link to an anti-shia organization.
Their beliefs led to the devlopment of an antagonism with an opposition Indian Islamic movement, who became known as the Barelvis, after Ahmed Raza Khan Barelvi. The Barelvis opposed the Deobandis for their opposition to several practices common in the Indian subcontinent at the time such as the celebration of Mawlid an-Nabi (the birthday of Muhammad), seeking intercession from saints and various other practices, all of which the Deobandis considered to be bidˤa "innovation". The Barelvis supported a more traditional Islam and was more receptive to Sufi folk-Islam of rural India. Such differences led to the Barelvis making takfīr (declaring to be non-Muslim) on the Deobandis, accusing them of being Wahhabis. This rivalry and antagonism has, however, declined in recent decades and generally consider each other to be part of Ahlu s-Sunnat wa l-Jāmaˤa. --- I dont understand how Barelvi is traditional Islam??
[edit] Inappropriate tone
This article needs work. Statements like 'Insha’Allah, these beliefs will be analyzed point by point.' don't belong in an encyclopaedia. Also, there's the problem with honorifics.--Nkv 17:50, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Copyright violation
Large sections of this article have been lifted wholesale from [1]. They need to be excised. --Nkv 07:03, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
I have removed the edits later than [2]. Ibn Saeed's edits are almost wholly lifted from the (apparently Salafi from what I can tell) site mentioned above. This biasses the article and also perhaps violated copyright issues. --Nkv 07:11, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Salafis
So, are the deobandis a sub-group of Salafis? --Striver 12:58, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
- Nope. However, the Deobandis and the Salafis agree on some points of Fiqh which the rest of the Sunnis don't. This has led to them (the Deobandis) being called Wahabis (or Salafis). --Nkv 15:04, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
- I would appreciate a section dedicated to some deeper info in this subject. --Striver 15:09, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
- It might be useful but I'm really not upto doing it. Source hunting for wikipedia, rabid editors have all gotten me down. These days, I just revert vandalism. --Nkv 17:11, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
- I would appreciate a section dedicated to some deeper info in this subject. --Striver 15:09, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
