Talk:Eldest
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 |
This article is part of WikiProject Novels, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to novels on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit one of the articles mentioned below, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and contribute to the General Project Discussion to talk over new ideas and suggestions. | ||
| B | This article has been rated as B-Class on the quality scale. | ||
| Mid | This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the importance scale. | ||
|
Article Grading: |
|||
|
Tasks you can do:
|
|||
 |
Eldest has had a peer review by Wikipedia editors which is now archived. It may contain ideas you can use to improve this article. |
Contents |
[edit] Discussion
I've taken the liberty of removing a few of the bullet points in the Facts section about Murtagh because they don't make sense and contradicted each other - one said Murtagh would be killed by Eragon in book 2, another said in book 3, so I've removed both of them. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 141.157.117.11 (talk • contribs) 22:11, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Fan Mail from anon.
Moved from article:
- I can't wait for the second book! the first one (ERAGON) was my favourite book in the world and i am going crazy waiting for ELDEST to in my hands! I must say, Christopher, you are truly amazing!
WBardwin 09:37, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I've totally edited the thing, added an excerpt and some facts and fromatted it. --Shreshth91($ |-| r 3 $ |-| t |-|) 3 July 2005 11:53 (UTC)
[edit] Stub created
I've created an inheritence trilogy stub.
Template:Inheritance-stub
So from now instead of putting {{lit-stub}}, you can type {{inheritance-stub}}. Feel free to make any improvements.--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| r 3 $ |-| t |-|) 16:14, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
- P.S. Sorry about this page being added to the [[Category:Inheritance trilogy stubs]]
[edit] Summary
Added summary--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| r 3 $ |-| t |-|) 10:49, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Eldest (Prior speculation)
This article is being looked at in VfD Wikipedia:Pages for deletion/Eldest (Prior speculation). That article appears longer than this, personally I think that merging that to here would be good, keeping it distinct section, removing any duplications. Alf 21:07, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
[edit] "Pronounciation"
Just a note that someone should verify whether or not the "Pronounciation Guide and Glossary" (sic, should be 'pronunciation') is misspelled in print (in which case a [sic] should be added to it), or if it was the editor of the article that made the mistake. The error was also made earlier in the page, which I corrected. --Dzhatse 00:11, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
- The hardcover edition (ISBN 037582670X) has "Pronunciation Guide and Glossary". I fixed this in the article. Thanks for pointing this out! — MATHWIZ2020 TALK | CONTRIBS 22:17, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] theres a third book?!?!?
i thought there was only 2. where did the third one come from. anyways i have read the first book and cant wait to read the second. if there is a 3 book it would be even better. if mr.p makes more books of the inheritance it would be like harry potter and he would be rich. this book is so cool. if u havent read this book yet ur an idiot! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.142.158.33 (talk • contribs) 03:03, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
- The third book, Empire, will be published in 2007. It will be the last book of the trilogy. — MATHWIZ2020 TALK | CONTRIBS 00:38, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
The third book will have a green dragon looking right on the cover. It is said that the third book will be twice as long as Eldest. -BoOkWoRm
[edit] critical reaction section
I was bold and weeded out the reviews that did not have sources, and replaced them with reviews for which I could find references. Feel free to change it back if the citations can be found. :) « Amina . skywalker (¿Hábleme?) 21:28, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
http://www.anti-shurtugal.com can be used as a source. They cover most of the criticisms on the Inheritance trilogy.
Also, EW didn't just vote Eldest as one of the worst books of the year, but as *the* worst book of the year, so I'm going to change that. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Targeter (talk • contribs) 21:45, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Chapter List
Is it really necessary to have a list of the chapters? I see no reason for these to be here. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Targeter (talk • contribs) 21:49, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
- I wouldn't think so. As mentioned on the peer review, this is an encyclopedia article, not a guide to the book. :) « Amina . skywalker (¿Hábleme?) 23:26, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
Then there's no objections to my removing it? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.219.56.209 (talk • contribs) 01:35, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
- Not as far as I'm concerned. « Amina . skywalker (¿Hábleme?) 02:54, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Similarity to Belgariad by David Eddings.
In Eldest, although I don't know the exact page number and don't have the book, there is a passage which describes Oromis teaching Eragon to draw in power from his surroundings, and then he exclaims something along the lines of "Don't take it from me! I'm weak enough as it is!" Then, Eragon is careful to keep him out of his range for 'drawing power'. In one of the books of the Belgariad, there is an extremely similar passage in which Belgarath is teaching Garion to use the Will and the Word, and they do practically the same things, with barely any variation except in wording. This is probably a coincidence, as the two series have the same kind of magic. But I thought I'd mention it, because when I was reading Eldest, this jumped out at me right away. It's uncanny. (Note that the Belgariad predates the Inheritance trilogy.) -A
Eldest is a wonderful and captivating epic about a boy, Eragon, who sets out to the elves' forest, Du Weldenvarden, to master his skills as a Rider with his dragon Saphira. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.131.225.19 (talk • contribs) 21:44, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Yes. It's also highly unoriginal. As for the Belgariad, that's not all that was copied. The idea of a silver mark on the palm marking a person as "speshul" was also copied. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.210.190.22 (talk • contribs) 02:59, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Character descriptions
Is it really necessary to have in this article character descriptions longer than a couple of lines, when most of them have their own article? Unless I see objections within a couple of weeks, I'll clean this up, and leave just a short decription, along with its appropriate wiki-link. -- Byakuren 15:53, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Discussions
Do you need such a lengthy summary of the book and such a short section for critisism, history of the book and other things? I did not make any changes, but personally I would think that summary and character description must be shortened, and things such as depth mention of author, interviews, and critisisms of unoriginality and counter arg—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tinned Butterfly (talk • contribs) .
