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Tropical Discussion Archives: 2005, January and February 2006, March and April 2006, May 2006, June 2006, July and August 2006, September and October 2006

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[edit] Re:Damage Totals

Excuse the only inflation calculator i found goes up to 2005.Mitchazenia V5.0 20:32, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Finally found one. Question-does the JTWC go under NOAA or is it non-public domain? Because they have a track map for typhoons and a track map for tropical storms/tropical depressions.Mitchazenia V5.0 22:15, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
I really shouldn't. I bug him enough for them.Mitchazenia V5.0 22:29, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
"track map for typhoons and a track map for tropical storms/tropical depressions"- I don't mean induvidual track maps. I meant: [1].Mitchazenia V5.0 01:35, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
I g2g so tommorrow I will. I put the b/w version in the seasonal activity for now.Mitchazenia V5.0 02:00, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
I may not have to. There's a {{storm path needed}} tag when you hit edit.azenia V5.0 00:28, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fabian images

Why did you put the newspaper images up for deletion, I dont see anything violationg FU policy. Storm05 14:30, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AOI #1:Eastern Pacific off the coast of Mexico

I detected this blob of thunderstorms forming over the 120° W longitude line. Storm05 16:42, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AOI #2:Off the North Carolina coast

An area of low pressure is forming along a frontal boundary, just like Beryl back in july.[2] Storm05 16:44, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Did you know

Updated DYK query On 2 November 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Hurricane Bob (1985), which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--GeeJo (t)(c) • 16:54, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tropical cyclones WikiProject Newsletter #6

Number 6, November 5, 2006

The Hurricane Herald

This is the monthly newsletter of WikiProject Tropical Cyclones. The Hurricane Herald aims to give a summary, both of the activities of the WikiProject and global tropical cyclone activity. If you wish to change how you receive this newsletter, or no longer wish to receive it, please add your username to the appropriate section on the mailing list. The WikiProject has its own IRC channel.

"THIS IS THE LAST PUBLIC ADVISORY ISSUED ON THIS USER UNLESS REGENERATION OCCURS"

Storm of the month

Xangsane to the east of the Philippines

Typhoon Xangsane, known as Typhoon Milenyo in the Philippines was a destructive typhoon that affected the Philippines and Indochina. The storm caused severe flooding and landslides in the regions it affected and was responsible for at least 279 deaths and $747 million (USD) in damage, mostly in the Philippines and Vietnam. Xangsane formed to the east of the Philippines and rapidly intensified, striking Samar Island as a Category 4 typhoon. It weakened over the Philippines, but again reached Category 4 strength in the South China Sea. After its landfall in Vietnam, the typhoon dissipated, with its remnant crossing Indochina and entering the Bay of Bengal.

Other tropical cyclone activity

  • Hurricane Isaac, which formed in September, hit Newfoundland with minimal effects on October 2. It was the only Atlantic storm in October.
  • One hurricane, Hurricane Paul, formed in the eastern Pacific and hit Mexico. There were also two tropical storms, Norman and Olivia, and two tropical depressions in the basin.
  • In addition to Typhoon Xangsane, two further typhoons and two tropical storms developed in the west Pacific. Typhoon Soulik and Tropical Storms Bebinca and Rumbia both stayed clear of land, whilst Typhoon Cimaron hit the Philippines killing at least 19 people there, before it dissipated in the South China Sea.
  • The North Indian Ocean saw one storm, Cyclonic Storm Ogni form in the Bay of Bengal.
  • The 2006-2007 Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone season got underway, with Tropical Cyclone Xavier forming to the west of Fiji. There were two further tropical depressions in the South Pacific and a tropical disturbance in the South Indian Ocean.

New articles and improvements wanted

  • Articles are wanted for Hurricane Flossy (1956), Tropical Storm Debbie (1965) and Tropical Storm Beryl (1994).
  • The articles on the Regional Specialized Meteorological Centres, such as those on the NHC, JMA and CPHC, all need work.
  • Likewise the articles on meteorologists such as Lixion Avila are poor.

Member of the month

Cyclone barnstar

The October Member of the Month is Coredesat. Coredesat joined the WikiProject in March and has contributed to many diverse areas within the project. He has written two featured articles on Atlantic storms and a number of good articles on current typhoons. However, the article he is most proud of is a disambiguation page, a sorely neglected portion of the project.

Storm article statistics

Grade Aug Sep Oct Nov
Featured article FA 16 15 15 16
A 6 7 6 7
Good article GA 24 28 33 48
B 77 79 84 83
Start 191 200 201 210
Stub 8 8 13 11
Total 322 337 352 375
percentage
≥;Less than B
61.8 61.7 60.8 58.9

Tropical cyclone scales

The various agencies which report on tropical cyclones use a variety of different scales to measure the storms strength. The most familiar of these is the Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Scale and this is the de facto standard in the project and should be used everywhere. However, as it is only official in the Atlantic and East Pacific, other local scales should be used when discussing storms in other regions and given primacy over the Saffir-Simpson Scale. The Saffir-Simpson scale is based on 1-minute averages, but other scales are generally based upon 10-minute averages, which are approximately 15% lower.

This table provides a useful-at-a-glance comparison of the various scales currently in use. Further complications arise due to the fact different agencies obtain different estimates for the same storm at the same time, so be careful to use the most appropriate source agency.

[edit] Re: Article Requests

Well ok. Fixed it. Here's my Lorenzo one-though its on the stubby side: User:Mitchazenia/ Tropical Storm Lorenzo (2001).Mitchazenia 21:56, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Welll-no chance you could help me with Lorenzo-I've goteen busy with 1962 PTS again, so i need some help.Mitchazenia-7000+edits 20:30, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Here's something for ya

(moved to main page)

Its for you from me.Mitchazenia 21:04, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

No problem. You deserve it.Mitchazenia 21:28, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Digital Typhoon

[3] This place has pressures beyond compare- Emma of 1962 the report says 903 mbar, but 890 here. I'm confused-is this legit.Mitchazenia-7000+edits 00:32, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

890 hPa was the JMA's lowest pressure assigned to the storm. – Chacor 14:22, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
So shall i stick with the 903 i already have or add the 890 to it.Mitchazenia-7000+edits 20:31, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
No idea. Hurricanehink (talk) 23:42, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

Updated DYK query On 9 November 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Hurricane Erin (2001), which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Allen3 talk 16:01, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NCDC stuff

Hey, those NCDC data are good but they are really confusing to search for specific data. How are you able to receive those event reports? Eg. how did you get to this report? Did you use the map or the search field or something else? RaNdOm26 10:18, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Ooooh, does the NCDC get info from Mexico or the Caribbean as well instead of just the US territories??? RaNdOm26 04:40, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NO FREAKIN WAY!!

GIBBS IS PLANNING TO GO BACK TO 1979!!!!! They havn't gotten there yet, if you click on the links it just says "Error", BUT!!! They have it linked, which means IT'S COMING!!! YES!!! HOW AWESOME IS THIS?! I CAN'T WAIT!!!!

I know! I'd love to see a bigger picture of Ivan (80) and Karl (80), too. I'd also like to see the January 1982 Mediterranean sea hurricane a little better, too. →Cyclone1 18:23, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
Me too. →Cyclone1 23:05, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

Updated DYK query On 10 November 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Tropical Storm Dean (2001), which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Allen3 talk 22:44, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding hypothetical hurricanes

Okay i understand, but ya'll need to know a few things: I make hypothetical hurricanes for fun and at no serious matter concerning about real TCs, second i (please excuse my language) suck like hell on making real sandbox articles for real tropical cyclones and lack on vocabluary, sources, etc and contian way too much typos. Also, i don't understand why "wikipedia is not...", it seems to take way personal freedom and discourage users. — Alastor Moody (T + C + U) 06:53, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

WP:NOT. There is no "personal freedom" on Wikipedia, we're not here for you. Our aim is to build an encyclopedia. There are free wiki hosting sites for you. See [4]. – Chacor 08:31, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hurricane Erika (1997)

I see you've been working on it-but I don't like the tag you put on it, I'd like to help to you know.Mitchazenia(7300+edits) 17:52, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry to bother again

Found some cool Wanda damage photos from Hong Kong- but are these copyrights? [5], There they are, all from the HKO. Please reply.Mitchazenia(7300+edits) 18:27, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Here is my work so far-wish i could put up those damage pics though.Can i have it assessed by you?Mitchazenia(7300+edits) 20:46, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Wanda (1962). So I can get to my next one.Mitchazenia(7300+edits) 21:04, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WOW!

Look at the low off the eastern U.S. coastline! and theres a two areas of convection in the atlantic and caribbean. I think the east U.S. low may get in invest sometime soon. Storm05 16:24, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Egad!, the storm has an eye!, maybe this will become joyce sooner or later, if the NRL and NHC makes its decision to put out an invest on it. Storm05 16:58, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
It appears to strengthen and get better organized. Dunno, maybe we could have Tropical Storm (or Subtropical Storm Joyce) in a day or so. Storm05 19:18, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Oh by the way, theres another area of convection several hundred miles east of the E. U.S. low. Dont know if the NHC will place an invest on that as well. Storm05 19:19, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
However, Subtropical Storm Nichole, Ana, Otto and Karen formed out of extratropical storms and Vince and Hurricane Epislion formed in water below 80°F.Storm05 19:31, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding the Typhoon Wanda (1962) article

I looked at the Typhoon Wanda article and it looked okay altough the intro needed to be in two paragrah and more info is needed for the Hainan Island impact. However, the guidelines you gave to User:Mitchazenia are in question. Like for example you said.

tropical waves don't occur in the WPAC, and if they do it probably wouldn't form there

Which is incorrect, tropical waves do form in the WPAC. The next comment you gave him was very confusing...

I know it happened back in 1962, but do you have any meteorlogical conditions? Why did it strengthen quickly?

There may be any metorlogical conditions, but as for how the storm strengthen to quickly thats impossible to explain because it happened back in 1962 and the JTWC reports do not go into detail and any specifc reason of why wanda strengthen to quickly is next to impossible unless its mentioned in a source about rapid strengthening. The same applies to your addtional comments and the records section should be kept separate from the impact because it had nothing to do with impact. And finally, a good article is NOT determined by the number of sources but the amount of info and how well written it is. Storm05 13:39, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Hink-do you have the link to the newer 1962 report-it would really help.Mitchazenia(7300+edits) 22:10, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
You said there was an updated report, and i was gonna use it for 1962 in general.Mitchazenia(7300+edits) 00:10, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
"Check newer JTWC reports that give parts of the storm history, and let me know how many form from tropical waves."-That saying on Storm05's page, cause now i have to go change most of the tropical waves to something else.Mitchazenia(7300+edits) 00:14, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
You gotta link for Gary Padgett's 1962 data?Mitchazenia(7300+edits) 00:26, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Well I just found something intresting- 1962's T.D.66W may be Tropical Storm 66W, I just watched an animation of its lifetime. JMA and Digital Typhoon have it under no-name storm, but it follows the same track as TD66W, with a little addition.I think we may have a secret storm. here. Mitchazenia(7400+edits) 22:57, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't know how to read the best tracks very well, so here-6219 is the code. The JMA Best Track data doesn't track depressions for one thing, 66W matches the data start date listed of September 11, 1962. If you look at the track map on the first link i left you- don't you see the light blue dots?Mitchazenia(7400+edits) 23:08, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Actually the JMA has it too-i was just about to bring that but Babe=Babs, Carla=Charlotte-I'm wondering what to put.Mitchazenia(7400+edits) 00:50, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Sorry-thought you were talking about the D.Typhoon link.Mitchazenia(7400+edits) 00:57, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DYK: Better late than not at all

Updated DYK query Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Cyclone Mala, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Cactus.man 19:11, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

;D -- RattleMan 01:58, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article Assessment (not a tropical cyclone or anything based on tropical cyclones)

Since we both live/have lived in NJ, you might be able to assess this for me: New Jersey State Route 67, I just redid it from a weak stub, leave your opinion.Mitchazenia(7400+edits) 20:58, 15 November 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Bad news

The hurricane newspaper link has changed in the way that only registered users can access the archive. Storm05 16:28, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Future articles

Thanks for the links! The only good info I could only find for Beryl (other than the NHC) was from cnn.com and all of that was just on preparations. I barely could find anything on impact, and I couldn't find a website that mentions about deaths from Beryl other than the one in the TCR report. :-( I would be surprised if I found out there were five webpages solely on Beryl's impact. However, I did find a few good reports from cnn.com for Florence, which is why I thought I had better luck with Florence. I hope it won't take TOO much of your time, but I am asking if you could help me out finding webpages for impact on Beryl, please! That's your choice though. Oh yeah, I saw the newspaper archive too, and I'm NOT gonna just register in it just because I wanna use it for Wikipedia research!!! No way! RaNdOm26 05:51, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

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