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Contents 1 Welcome 2 Permcat names 3 Re Islamic architecture 4 Portal:Architecture 5 mosque to house 6 Gary Kirk's RfA 7 Islamic architecture 8 RfA thanks 9 Please Vote 10 What do you think about 11 Graz Art Museum, Kunsthaus Graz, or Grazer Kunsthaus 12 Two more 12.1 Two more 13 Happy Eid 14 Thank you 15 Urban studies project 16 Re vandlism 17 Pierre Rossier 18 Architectural visualization 19 Hi 20 RE: St Nicholas Cathedral Of Cyprus 21 Joining 22 Re:thanks 23 Noticeboard 24 Architecture of Ancient Sri Lanka 25 Hey there 26 re:Your request on Wikiproject architecture 27 Vault merger proposal 28 translation question 29 re: Palais Strousberg

[edit] Welcome

Hello, Mcginnly, and welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the Newcomers help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type {{helpme}} on your user page, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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[edit] Permcat names

It's normal for category names to be plural, for the reason you mention, it's just a matter for stub-cats whether they're "double plurals". Or in the case of "buildings and structures stubs", I suppose triple. You're very welcome for whatever points I made about adminship... not that I recall what they were. :) Alai 15:02, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re Islamic architecture

Hi Mcginnly. Sure, no problem at all. Just be bold and do it. By the way, you are doing a very good job at the article. Here are some refs re to Quba Mosque as the first mosque in Islam:

• Muhammad: The Messenger of Islam by Hajjah Amina Adil (p.286)
• The Naqshbandi Sufi Tradition Guidebook of Daily Practices and Devotions by Shaykh Muhammad Hisham Kabbani (p.301)
• Happold: The Confidence to Build by Derek Walker and Bill Addis (p.81) -- Szvest 15:55, 12 October 2006 (UTC) ^{Wiki me up ®}

[edit] Portal:Architecture

Hello, are you interested in rotating the Portal every third week?

Very nice pictures of Barcelona. May I nominate some for featured picture at Commons? Thanks --Dogears 16:52, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

You're right that it always needs updating in many ways. Don't forget also DYK and in the news (in the news we sadly seem to neglect the most). It would be nice to even rotate the SI and SAs on a shorter than 1 week basis sometime, I don't know if were ready for that yet even though we have something of a backlog developing in the nominations. What do you think of this, Hallidie Building? I found a picture for it finally, and need to substantiate the claim about the first curtain wall. I forget where I read that, but know I did somewhere. Once I remember and add a little more, it might be my first DYK. Best, DVD+ R/W 18:36, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

• Proposal accepted - re: "…so my proposal is:- perhaps you guys would consider lending a hand keeping those bits up to date and I'll rotate on the 3rd week. How does that sound?…" See also new toolbar, below. Feel free to edit if its useful. —dogears (talk • contribs) 17:46, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

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Shortcut: WP:WPARCH

Shortcut: WP:ARCH

Portal subpages - WP:FAC → FA  _°  WP:FPC → FP  -  C:FP - WP:PR - WP:GA

candidates → SA → archive  _°  candidates → SP → archive  _°  News   _°  DYK

WikiProject subpages — Links to Template:Architecture — All Articles: "Architecture" — roster

Wikiproject current lists → FAC  _°  FIC  _°  ARCHPR

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• Thanks! You can rotate the portal tonight, if you'd like to, or I'll get to it tomorrow, since I delayed two weeks now. Dogears 01:46, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] mosque to house

I think that will be more accurate. it's a pilgrimage site therefore a shrine... the use of mosque in the ref is used not in accurate fashion. Amoruso 17:12, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Pilgrimage site and worship site. It is more accurately a worshiping site and muslims come from all over the world to visit it as it is one of the 3 holiest sites. Maybe having it Mosque for worship is enough and fair along with the word shrine. Almaqdisi 17:16, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

house of pilgrimage. if not, it's best to leave it. almaqdisi, stop stalking. Amoruso 17:19, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

I do not undersand. Mginnly is saying that there are many sources which mention it is a Mosque. This is true. Now you are discussing it is for piligrimage or worship. Pointless. Keep the word a Mosque only if pilgrimage will be an issue of debate too! No need to mention piligrimage or worship, just a mosque. And accroding to the definition of a Mosque, it is a place of worship. In Mecca the piligrims go to worship in a Mosque called masjid al-Haram. But again, if this is an issue of debate, forget it and just keep the word Mosque along with the word shrine. Simple... Almaqdisi 17:22, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

it's by definition not a mosque. some refer to it as mosque because of pilgrimage. No, the article will never say in the lead that it's a "mosque" because it isn't. Live with it. Amoruso 17:27, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Alternate version will be to leave "shrine" and in the end of the lead say something like "Some refer to the Dome as a Rock as a mosque even though it isn't". That can be acceptable too. Amoruso 17:29, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Amuros, please let us not repeat the stuff we did in several talk pages...! Any one can go to Google and find "Dome of the Rock Mosque" or "Mosque of Umar" to see that this is indeed a Mosque.! I will stop discussing this any further. Almaqdisi 17:29, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Please do stop this nonsense and violations. Amoruso 17:30, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gary Kirk's RfA

[edit] Islamic architecture

Hi Mcginnly!! Yes, about the Regional architecture template, I personally think it is quite irrelevant to be honest with you. There is no point of putting it in a Regional architeture articles, it gives an article "the lack of informative language, that gives the article a loss of appereance and describition". It should be either re-constructed or deleted. Nonetheless, I have observed the article's progress during the last week and it is being re-constructed very well. However, the small paragraphs (i.e. the Fatamid architecture) don't have a main article like the other ones. I have searched for them but I couldn't find any artciles by that name. I was going to ask you about other issues regarding this article but I hopelessly forgot them so I will post a message later on when I remember them!!!!!

Abdullah Geelah 19:29, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi Mcginnly!!, I have been warching the Stirling Prize award on TV and when I went on the PC I found out that someone put the Taj Mahal picture on the first paragraph on the Islamic architecture page. Was it you?? because it looks irrelevant on the first paragraph.

I think you should remove it from this article but different languages help us to understand and the point is that Persian, Arabic and Turkish are the major languages in the Islamic world. However, can you keep Arabic as it is the main language of Islam???

Abdullah Geelah 21:34, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfA thanks

Thank you very much for your support in my RfA, which passed on October 17, 2006 with a tally of 53/6/0. I am equally elated and humbled by my new capacity as administrator of Wikipedia, and I send my heartfelt thanks for your unflinching support. If you need me for anything, just ask me! With gratitude, 210physicq (c) 04:03, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please Vote

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/AutoCAD Layers Please vote and voice whatever opinion you have. Thank You.--Endgame1 21:30, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What do you think about

While Islamic architecture is on the improvement drive, what do you think about Berber architecture? It is now a redlink, but might it make a useful addition? DVD+ R/W 20:49, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes sounds good - At first I wasn't sure if it wasn't just a subset of Moorish architecture - the stub of which I created this week, but this site seems to disagree with that. some more sources here, here and some great images at the commons. --Mcginnly | Natter 08:39, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Graz Art Museum, Kunsthaus Graz, or Grazer Kunsthaus

Which do you think should be the title of an article about this in English? Could you take a look at User:DVD R W/Grazer Kunsthaus and de:Grazer Kunsthaus, and double check my translation? (/me knows that you can translate German well) Also feel free to add anything, when I release it into the wild it will be moved rather than C&P'd so it will keep the history of revisions. Also, do you think we should have a Portal:Architecture/New article announcements like Portal:Russia/New article announcements? See ya, DVD+ R/W 00:29, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Two more

I'm starting two more from de: User:DVD R W/Killesbergturm, and User:DVD R W/Praemium Imperiale if you want to help again :-) see de:Killesbergturm and de:Praemium_Imperiale. I am also thinking about this one de:Multihalle Do you think we should have a box on the portal listing new articles or announce them like in the example above? Also take another look at de:Portal:Architektur und Bauwesen, they've totaly re-done it. DVD+ R/W 02:13, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Two more

Look, a new de: architecture EA de:Historisches Rathaus Münster, I haven't moved it to my userspace because it is too long and I'm going to finish Killesbergturm first (I just about finished User:DVD R W/Автопортрет from ru: today). I brought over User:DVD R W/Baustelle, Baustelle means building site right? Do you think it is worth having it's own article? Now it redirects to construction, where I don't think it is mentioned. I don't know, I might just zap it. I'm excited because I found GFDL pics of Casa Malaparte too. See ya, DVD+ R/W 06:19, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Happy Eid

Happy Eid!! to you as well, yes i was away for a couple of weeks because of Eid and Ramadan. About the picture, I think you should put the Taj Mahal picture at the lead but can you find another appropriate picture to go on the Mughal architecture section. Abdullah Geelah 19:50, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Well I seem to finally have time to visit the Wikipedia again, and I offer you a belated thank you for your input in my RfA. In a few months after I graduate I think I'll be able to come back and try again later. I'll be sure to be involved in MfD, AfD. Any tips or suggestions for me based on what you remember?X [Mac Davis] (SUPERDESK|Help me improve) 06:40, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Urban studies project

The goal is to list the projects under each of the headings appropriate to the project, on the hope that people who are interested in a particular heading are most likely to look there. Which "heading" would you like to see the Urban studies project prime listing be under? That is the one which will not have the "please look here" line, but will actaully list any departments, portals, etc. Please let me know and I can make the appropriate changes. Alternately, you could do so yourself, but, given the complexity of the directory, you might prefer it if I did so. Having created the bloody thing, I know quite well how easy it is to screw it up. You really don't want to know how many times I have done so already. :) B2T2 16:40, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re vandlism

Hi Mcginnly! I am sure it would've been you if it wasn't me! It's a wonderful article and it would be a pity to not control the sneaky vandalism. Happy editing! -- 18:19, 26 October 2006 (UTC) ^{Wiki me up ®}

[edit] Pierre Rossier

Hi, thanks for the support and kind comments on the Pierre Rossier FAC. Ciao! Pinkville 03:22, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Architectural visualization

Hi Mcginnly, thanks for dropping me a line. Dictionary definition is not a criteria for speedy for deletion. But I haven't speedied the article, I prodded it. Prod allows just about any good faith argument you'd use in an AfD to be used and, if uncontested, the article is deleted after 5 days or so. But anyone can remove the tag for any reason, if they do the article is not deleted. That's why I thought I'd announce on the architecture project page, since it seemed like the best place to reach people with reason to keep the article. If anyone there thinks it should be kept that's good enough for me, I'm won't follow up with an AfD. --Siobhan Hansa 15:03, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll add it there too. --Siobhan Hansa 15:07, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hi

Hello, long time no see. --159.101.23.168 14:45, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE: St Nicholas Cathedral Of Cyprus

Of course my friend ,if your interested in cathedrals and churches and architecture in cyprus ,more and more coming , my camera and my info are ready for improving such article please keep me in touch we can always discuss thank you very much .

--Jhabib 23:54, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Joining

How to join the project Thanks

Jhabib 10:52, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:thanks

You are very welcome. I noticed the arch project banner is missing categories and assessment features. Do you have plans to add them? -- Ganeshk (talk) 20:25, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Noticeboard

If you want to keep that noticeboard afloat, with an everyday supply of new announcements, we should post a standard message about this board to the talk page of each editor who creates articles about buildings and architects on a regular basis. The message may contain a mild advice to add the noticeboard to their watchlist. Best, Ghirla ^-трёп- 12:42, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Architecture of Ancient Sri Lanka

I found out that the article above has been chose for the WikiProject Architecture Improvement Drive, I have added the underconstruction tempolate on top of the article. However, the article does need images and more information. There are citations missing on it, unfortunately I do not know much about the Architecture of Ancient Sri Lanka. I looked for some references and sources on the internet but I could not find a sutiable and reliable source to back up the article. I also noyiced that not many people are improving the article, therefore can you ask the members of the project to help to improve the article.

P.S. Last month's article Islamic architecture could be now a candidate for a featured article status but I need the support of you and the members.

Thanks!!

Abdullah Geelah 09:46, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hey there

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• I think the template needs to be fixed ... --evrik ^(talk) 20:57, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I copied it from scouting - what needs to be done? --Mcginnly | Natter 20:59, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] re:Your request on Wikiproject architecture

I left a reply to your request on the project page - do you have a photograph of the interior of the mosque's dome and vaults - it will be easier to say what type of vault it is then. Also, if you create any other architecture articles, you might consider adding them to Portal:Architecture/New article announcements. Cheers. --Mcginnly | Natter 12:58, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Mcginnly, unfortunately i don't have any other photos. I've taken it in my home town, whenever i go there i will take interior parts photos:) I like taking architectural photos and writing about them but sometimes it's difficult to find exact terms in English. I've written a few articles, in 1-2 months. Can i add them to new article announcements. Thanks again for your interest. --Ugur Basak 13:09, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi Mcginnly, i've found a few photos and also added the link to project's talk page. Cheers --Ugur Basak 13:21, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vault merger proposal

could you explain your thinking on this merger? do you really wish to obliterate the article Barrel vault? to indicate the importance of Barrel vault as a topic, there are over 60 incoming links to that article. Just by the measure of links alone, Barrel vault certainly should have its own article and is destined to have significant expansion. Anyone interested in medieval architecture should have a strong interest in preserving this article. there is no reason that you cant borrow from Barrel vault to expand vault if you wish. puzzled Anlace 18:54, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

• your compromise proposal is acceptable regarding barrel vault. i assume to be in good faith your doubling measurement is based upon the stub version of the article when you installed the merger tag? Anlace 21:46, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

• You might want to review Vault sub-types in architecture before deciding what to do. -- Jreferee 00:45, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] translation question

Out of my depth here. You should ask a native German speaker what it would mean in this context. - Jmabel | Talk 19:29, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] re: Palais Strousberg

Looks good, a few thoughts:

• In the lead - splendour, grandiosity, refined luxury, and opulence seem like peacock terms though they are not listed there.
• Maybe merge the sections "Use as the British Embassy" and "Fate of the Palais" or differentiate them further.
• You also only need to link an article once, when the name first appears in the text.

DVD+ R/W 00:00, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

• That lead sentence could be put in quotes, even if it was written in German(?), but agree with the large number of unqualified adjectives. Otherwise the article is destined for FA status, very interesting. P.S. Still traveling to London soon? —Dogears (talk • contribs) 03:33, 20 November 2006 (UTC)