User talk:Oldsoul
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Hi, and welcome! FYI, redirects are not used to point to categories, so what you're trying to do at Science fiction technology won't work. Wikipedia:Redirect has more information on how redirects work. Again, welcome! tregoweth July 8, 2005 05:08 (UTC)
- Hey Tregoweth, thanks for the tip. Do you know a way around that off hand?--Oldsoul July 8, 2005 17:32 (UTC)
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- No. Redirects are only used for articles. If there was an article about Science fiction technology, it could be put in Category:Science fiction technology, but that's about it. tregoweth July 8, 2005 17:57 (UTC)
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You tagged this image as PD, but the Edmonton Airport site specifically says that it allows only non-commercial use. How is this image PD? Thanks. :) kmccoy (talk) 8 July 2005 20:47 (UTC)
- No, I guess you're right. I was pretty tired when I did that up. 'Non-commercial' would mean we can upload it though correct? What would the proper copyright tag be then?--Oldsoul July 9, 2005 08:02 (UTC)
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- Unfortunately, the correct tag is {{noncommercial}}, which isn't really usable for Wikipedia, so the image will most likely need to be deleted, unless a Fair use claim can be made. kmccoy (talk) 9 July 2005 08:26 (UTC)
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- Alright, I checked out the fair use page, and I think it doesn't apply in this case. I'm going to try and re-create the image in photo shop.Thanks for your guidance Kmccoy. :o) --Oldsoul July 9, 2005 19:20 (UTC)
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- I appreciate your patience and helpfulness in this matter. :) If you don't have luck recreating the image, you may try just linking to the airport authority's page, too. I'm going to put the current image into the deletion stack, so it'll get deleted when an admin gets to it. :) Thanks again! kmccoy (talk) 9 July 2005 19:26 (UTC)
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[edit] Western Front, Battlebox & the Scheldt
From the history of Battle of the Scheldt
- 12:55, 6 July 2005 Philip Baird Shearer (Campaing in battle box probably needs to be moved into a Western Front campaign like "Drive to Siegfried Line". The categories are hierachical so place with other battles into subcategory not main cat)
From my Talk page:
- Perhaps it is because I'm very tired, but I'm not quite sure I understand what you meant with the campaign box on The Battle of the Scheldt. I look and looked for a campaign or some category to put it under, and found there was no listing of all the battles on the western front. That is why I started that box. If you can help me improve or explain to me how to nest it like you've suggested that would be great. On this note, you'll find, as I'm sure you may already have noticed, that there are multiple parallel categories, and list pages related to the war. Perhaps we can build a road map for integrating them all together in a coherent unified standard way. Continue this on my talk? --Oldsoul 14:38, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
I was referring to the campaign mentioned in the campaignbox template. For an overview of the discussion see Talk:Drive to the Siegfried Line and Talk:Northern France Campaign (1944). Oberiko has been the lead in this area. He has also done a lot of work on other overview documents on World War II. Eg North African Campaign and Italian Campaign (World War II).
The idea is to have a theatre document like Mediterranean Theatre of World War II and then one or more campaigns in the theatre. The template:WWIITheatre gives an overview of this.
I agree with Oberiko's overall stratagy but we disagree in details. I suspect long term he would want to replicat/rewrite the last section in the Western Front (World War II) into another document Western European Campaign (1944-1945) to match the category:Western European Campaign (1944-1945). While I do not think that this is neccessary, I think that a campaingbox of 1944-45 is a better idea than having one for all of the battles on the westen front from 1939-9145.
Please reply here so that the text remains in one place and I will watch this page for changes over the next day or so. I will post a heads up on Oberiko's page to this discussion. Philip Baird Shearer 15:52, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
- Hello Oldsoul.
- First, let me start off by stating that you look to have done an excellent job on the Battle of the Scheldt page.
- Second, I don't think we should lump all action on the Western Front together, considering that are broken up into very seperate campaigns. A quick example would be the campaign box for the Battle of Normandy which outlines Operation Overlord.
- The overall scheme I wanted to go for is something like as follows:
- Western Front (World War II)
- Norwegian Campaign
- Battle of France
- Battle of Britain
- Western European Campaign (1944-1945)
- Operation Overlord / Battle of Normandy / ~ Normandy Campaign
- Drive to the Seigfried Line [Actions between Overlord and the Ardennes Offensive]
- Ardennes Offensive / Battle of the Bulge / Ardennes-Alsace Campaign
- ?? [Actions post Ardennes Offensive]
- As it stands, both Operation Overlord and the Ardennes offensive have their own campaign boxes. If were to try and mix the battles together with the campaigns, we'd have a template with no consistancy. Quick example is that Operation Varsity has the same space as the Battle of France, which itself is comprised of numerous smaller battles.
- My suggestion is that the Western Front (World War II) box should only contain: Norwegian Campaign, Battle of France, Battle of Britain and Western European Campaign (1944-1945). Each of those would then have their own campiagn boxes.
- The Battle of the Scheldt would go in the Drive to the Seigfried Line (a name that we would like to change if possible) campaign box, along with Operation Market-Garden, Battle of Aachen, Battle of Metz, Hurtgen forest etc. Oberiko 21:41, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
Thanks Oberiko! It took me virtually two full days of little sleep. I hope that it's the first of many major contributions I can work on, perhaps working with you I can gain more experience to do more ambitious ones. :oP
Let me say that I am nearly 100% in support of what you have outlined there as a general road map, and structure. However, what do you think about having a top level article in the Western Front (World War II) that would link to all the various resistance movements in Western Europe, after the Battle of France and before and after Overlord? It could be argued that the resistance in all the western countries during war may be so minor as to not merit a place amongst the major military campaigns, however I think that given that many of the resistance movements had their own Chain of Command, logistical networks, and operational planning, it may be a worthy endeavour to have them listed as below. i.e.
- Western Front (World War II)
- Norwegian Campaign
- Battle of France
- Battle of Britain
- Resistance Movements (any better name?)
- French Resistance
- Belgian Resistance et cetera...
- Western European Campaign (1944-1945)
- Operation Overlord / Battle of Normandy / ~ Normandy Campaign
- Drive to the Seigfried Line [Actions between Overlord and the Ardennes Offensive]
- Ardennes Offensive / Battle of the Bulge / Ardennes-Alsace Campaign
- ?? [Actions post Ardennes Offensive]
I think the objective should be to develop a taxonomy to streamline the existing structure, as well as make the neccessary merges to all the related lists and categories. Finally, I think it is important that for each battle, operation et cetera, that we maintain a NPV by fully researching the German or Axis side of the battle, and present it as well as we can. (i.e. Not using 'enemy' or 'nazi's to describe the german forces, and showing the German military perspective as well).
In summary, we need to a). consider the resistance movements as a separate campaign on the western front, b). develop a fully coherent taxonomic strategy that encompasses all related lists, categories and sub-categories and c). maintain an NPV with military perspectives from both sides, not just the allies. --Oldsoul 02:28, July 11, 2005 (UTC)
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- I can't say I'm really in the favour of placing resistance movements on the Western Front, which to me is defined by armed military conflict rather then partisan/civilian conflict. Personally I think they belong in their own resistance category where we'd have French Resistance, Polish Resistance etc. I do think that raiding operations (Strategic bombing, commando assaults) could be listed with the campaigns though.
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- I, of course, agree fully with wanting it as NPOV as possible. Oberiko 23:34, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
Commando raiding yes; Naval and Air no, in own categories, unless in tactical support of land forces; resistance obliquelly via SOE and OSS. Also German deployments to counter OSS and commando raiding and the need to protect against an invasion (Atlantic Wall). When I say SOE and OSS I am thinking more theatre than front. Philip Baird Shearer 10:23, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Battle of the Scheldt
One way I see to improve this article ( I want to try to get it to FA standard is to add references, which I hope you can remember where you got parts of information and add the references without much searching, making it much easier I hope you can do this. If you can't do it without a lot of work, just state it here and I will try. I was going to, just thought it migh be easier for you. Thanks.say1988 19:16, August 2, 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Battle of The Scheldt
Hello Oldsoul.
Generally we only link to another article once, on it's first appearance; on the page at the moment some articles, like Scheldt are linked to multiple times. I also replaced the Western Front campaign box with the more specific Seigfried Line campaign box, as each stage of the Western European Campaign (Normandy, Dragoon, Seigfried, Ardennes and Central Europe) each have (or will have) their own campaignBox. Oberiko 12:04, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
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- Fine Obbie, but why did you remove the link to Monty for instance? Oldsoul 20:56, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
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