Talk:Personal development
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[edit] Improvement Drive
20060830 -- someone is using the URI for this article as the refer(r)er in link list spam. It's safe to assume it's one of the external links and should be removed but I can't tell which it is. Probably the newest but I'm not going to remove it without proof. The server doing the evil is in this block: 62.254.32.* which maps to GB. (Apv)
- The link to angelfire has to be killed. I have a good deal of referer spam pointing to this site in my logs.
- I'm getting referral spam from the angelfire directly and this wiki-page. I think that's proof. Removing angelfire external ink as spam. However, I don't see any valid reason for keeping the other commercial external links either. I humble vote that the section be removed permanently. Harley 02:42, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
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- I'm also getting referrer spam from both this page and the angelfire page, from the same address: belf-cache-4.server.ntli.net. --Aleph1 19:25, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
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Time management is currently a candidate on WP:IDRIVE. Support it with your vote if you want to see this article improved to featured status.--Fenice 07:52, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
I thought the link Personal Development fitted well with the content of the article on Personal Development. I had noticed that there was only one external link. Although the site by Steve Pavlina is excellent it only gives Steve's personal view and experiences of the subject. The site mentioned above has articles, reviews and different opinions on a range of personal development issues. I believe the whole point of the Wipedia dictionary is to offer free information and resources and I was only trying to add a valuable contribution and do not understand why Tyrenius removed it.
[edit] added a link
i added a link to my personal dev blog/site. --andrew leahey 19:03, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] External Links
Why, exactly, was Steve Pavlina's *actually useful* link removed in favor of an angelfire page?
I edited it back, if theres a good reason for the change I'd love to hear it. --andrew leahey 14:09, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Referrer Spam Proof
From my referrer logs:
- belf-cache-4.server.ntli.net - - [09/Sep/2006:14:09:12 -0400] "GET /2464.html HTTP/1.1" 200 1592 "http://www.angelfire.com/wizard2/release/personaldevelopment/" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows 98)"
- belf-cache-4.server.ntli.net - - [09/Sep/2006:14:09:12 -0400] "GET /2464.html HTTP/1.1" 200 1592 "http://www.angelfire.com/wizard2/release/personaldevelopment/" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows 98)"
- belf-cache-4.server.ntli.net - - [10/Sep/2006:10:44:18 -0400] "GET /2464.html HTTP/1.1" 200 1592 "http://www.angelfire.com/wizard2/release/hypnosis.html" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows 98)"
- belf-cache-4.server.ntli.net - - [10/Sep/2006:10:44:18 -0400] "GET /2464.html HTTP/1.1" 200 1592 "http://www.angelfire.com/wizard2/release/hypnosis.html" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows 98)"
- belf-cache-4.server.ntli.net - - [10/Sep/2006:10:44:20 -0400] "GET /2464.html HTTP/1.1" 200 1592 "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_development" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows 98)"
- belf-cache-4.server.ntli.net - - [10/Sep/2006:12:30:00 -0400] "GET /280.html HTTP/1.1" 200 1745 "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_development" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows 98)"
- belf-cache-4.server.ntli.net - - [10/Sep/2006:13:10:03 -0400] "GET /s-11713.html HTTP/1.1" 200 1330 "http://www.angelfire.com/wizard2/release/hypnosis.html" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows 98)"
- belf-cache-4.server.ntli.net - - [10/Sep/2006:13:10:03 -0400] "GET /s-11713.html HTTP/1.1" 200 1330 "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_development" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows 98)"'
Whoever owns/advocates the Angelfire page is trying to use Wikipedia as an end run. I get a run of these about once a week, lots of repeated hits to get it in the "top ten" of my stats.
--Vees 18:22, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
86.12.230.167, the same person who added all the links to the AngelFire pages, deleted my proof of referrer spam comments here in the talk page earlier today. Look out for a new round of spam links around this neighborhood of articles. I restored them with my previous edit.
--Vees 18:11, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Proposed deletion
Against deletion while the article can do with improvement (I have done a bit) personal development is a seperate concept that is used and users would expect to find in Wikipedia. It is seperate from self development since it does not necessarily involve self-help.John Talbut 07:55, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
