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[edit] Status

Just to be clear, it might be worth adding that although the National university of Ireland, Maynooth was/is established as an autonomous body from St. Patricks College,Maynooth; the latter remains a recognised college of the National University of Ireland (the awarding body) and so its graduates are on a par to all others. Thus St. Patricks College, Maynooth did not loose any status with the establishment of National University of Ireland, Maynooth; rather it had its unique status as a teacher of Theology within the third level education system, recognised. Is that fair to say? Fennek.

It may be worth consulting the article National University of Ireland, Maynooth, in particular note 2 deals with the status of Maynooth graduates who recieved NUI degrees, prior to the division. Legally such graduates are considered to be graduates of National University of Ireland, Maynooth and not of St Patrick's College, Section 48, Universities Act, 1997:
(2) All students of a constituent college or the Recognised College of St. Patrick's College, Maynooth on whom a degree of the National University of Ireland was conferred as a result of their studies at the college before the commencement of Part III shall be regarded as graduates of the corresponding constituent university for the purposes of subsection (1)(e).
The same act removed the ban on theology that existed in the National University system; prior to the act the only degrees that the National University of Ireland confered at Maynooth where those of arts and sciences - it has never confered a degree in theology at the college or university. The relationship between the National University of Ireland and St Patricks College, Maynooth ceased in 1997.
Djegan 00:35, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ordinations

Would an external story/link be more approprate than reproducing the figures here? Djegan 18:48, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge Proposal

Duf 18:55, 3 August 2006 (UTC) Re - Merge proposal: Perhaps you have a point with respect to this paragraph. I dont know how to execute a merge; maybe you would advise me.

Would you not think it appropriate to include some pertinent reference to Ledwith's coming and going? He was President for a decade and both his selection and departure were controversial. I would be interested in your opinion.

Once their is a consensus then a cut-and-paste job. Certainly a subsection on Ledwith would not be inappropriate, under the history section. Djegan 19:23, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ordinations in Archdiocese of Dublin 1990 - 2005

I propose that we move this section, its not really part of the college or university. We can move it to Archdiocese of Dublin or Roman Catholicism in Ireland. Alternatively we could graph the numbers (and move them to one of the proposed articles, I will graph them), but ultimately can anyone give a source? Djegan 13:31, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

I wrote this but cannot lay my hands on the source despite the data being published relatively recently. The most recent annual report of the Irish bishops (http://www.catholiccommunications.ie/annualreport/ccoannualreport2005-2006.pdf) / page 34 confirms the total annual number of diocesan ordinations as: 2001 (29), 2002 (16), 2003 (19), 2004 (11). The press release dated June 9 2006 from Maynooth College (http://www.maynoothcollege.ie/pressreleases/9june2006.shtml) states that there will be 8 ordinations in 2006. I agree with your proposal and suggest that these figures be graphed instead. Duf 15:29, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

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