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[edit] Name
Is the name suppose to mean death or immortality? In Greek "death" = "thanatos" while immortality = "athanatos". The greek name Athanasios/Athanasius (short version of Athanasios = "THANOS"), means he who is immortal, is therefore a short version of a name which actually means immortal. I know this coz Thanos is my name.
[edit] Strength Level
Hulk, Thor, Gladiator, Hercules and the Silver Surfer are all considered to have Class 100 strength. Listing Thanos at incalculable strength levels indicates his strength is beyond their level, nothing more. Class 100 can no longer indicate a tonnage the character can lift, if it did Class 75 Namor (who has military pressed nuclear submarines weighing tens of thousands of tons) would also be listed at incaluculable, yet he is clearly below the Hulk and Thor in strength as shown in direct interactions. If tonnage really determined the strength class characters fell into then everyone from Namor, the Thing, Sasquatch, Colossus, etc. would have to be listed at "Incalculable"; which would make the whole class system pretty moot. Even Spiderman would have to be Class 50+ since he has lifted close to 50 tons in the past, but he is still only a Class 10 character. The stength "class" system can only be a system of relative strengths, meaning Class 100 guys are all in the same relative ball park, Class 50 guys are all in the same ballpark and guys listed as Incalculable are solidly above those considered to be Class 100. The Incalculable strength level of Thanos, as well as Mangog or Kurse, obviously cannot begin to compare to the Incalculable strength level of omnipotent types such as Galactus or the Celestials. The implication here is that the "Incalculable" strength rating in the class system simply means "beyond Class 100" and isn't a true, definable class in and of itself. Thanos currently being solidly above guys like Hulk, Thor, and the Surfer (as shown in direct interactions) in raw strength means he deserves the "Incalculable" or "beyond Class 100" strength rating. - MrBigB
- That's not only totally wrong, but you need an editor. 70.50.53.109 13:56, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
- What a witty, well thought out and informative rebuttal. Let me guess, a Hulk fan? There are examples of Thanos simultaneously overpowering not only Thor & Thing (pre-death, before power-up), but also Hulk & Dumb-Drax (post-death powerup; IG) Hulk & Hercules (post-death powerup; issue involving Quasar) and the Silver Surfer on numerous occasions. Thanos is beyond the Class 100 bricks in pure strength, too many in-continuity examples point to this to continue to deny it. - MrBigB
- I can't believe I didn't notice this reply before now. Thanks for a laugh, B. Not a good one, but a laugh. You might want to avoid saying things like "Dumb-Drax" if you're going to accuse others of lacking wit. Just a suggestion. Biff Loman 21:43, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- Biff loman9, are you even aware that there are two (possibly three) distinctly different versions of Drax the Destroyer? We have the original Drax (who retained his full intelligence) and "Dumb" Drax who was resurrected by Kronos about the same time Death resurrected Thanos. The resurrected "Dumb" Drax had his powers (and strength) greatly enhanced but he had the intelligence equivilant to that of a 3 year old child. "Dumb" Drax had Class 100 strength while the original Drax did not. Perhaps now you understand why I referred specifically to "Dumb Drax" when referring to the Thanos feat. It's a commonly used term when referring to the resurrected, powered up Drax. As for the laugh, you're welcome. Somehow, I doubt it will seem quite as funny now. :) MrBigB
- It's even funnier now - because you think you're actually capable of correcting someone else! Too funny! As a long time comics reader (probably longer than you've been alive, as you're probably about 12), I know the histories of most Marvel characters. (I'm not much of a DC fan.) I'm not sure if I can really explain to you exactly what was funny about what you said, considering your reply totally missed the point! Again! Oh, it's almost too rich! Almost. 67.71.143.54 12:10, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
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- I agree, it IS even funnier now! Let me guess, you think "dumb" only refers to people who are mute? Check again, Mr. articulate! MrBigB 21:51, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
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- It's even funnier now - because you think you're actually capable of correcting someone else! Too funny! As a long time comics reader (probably longer than you've been alive, as you're probably about 12), I know the histories of most Marvel characters. (I'm not much of a DC fan.) I'm not sure if I can really explain to you exactly what was funny about what you said, considering your reply totally missed the point! Again! Oh, it's almost too rich! Almost. 67.71.143.54 12:10, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
- Biff loman9, are you even aware that there are two (possibly three) distinctly different versions of Drax the Destroyer? We have the original Drax (who retained his full intelligence) and "Dumb" Drax who was resurrected by Kronos about the same time Death resurrected Thanos. The resurrected "Dumb" Drax had his powers (and strength) greatly enhanced but he had the intelligence equivilant to that of a 3 year old child. "Dumb" Drax had Class 100 strength while the original Drax did not. Perhaps now you understand why I referred specifically to "Dumb Drax" when referring to the Thanos feat. It's a commonly used term when referring to the resurrected, powered up Drax. As for the laugh, you're welcome. Somehow, I doubt it will seem quite as funny now. :) MrBigB
- I can't believe I didn't notice this reply before now. Thanks for a laugh, B. Not a good one, but a laugh. You might want to avoid saying things like "Dumb-Drax" if you're going to accuse others of lacking wit. Just a suggestion. Biff Loman 21:43, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- What a witty, well thought out and informative rebuttal. Let me guess, a Hulk fan? There are examples of Thanos simultaneously overpowering not only Thor & Thing (pre-death, before power-up), but also Hulk & Dumb-Drax (post-death powerup; IG) Hulk & Hercules (post-death powerup; issue involving Quasar) and the Silver Surfer on numerous occasions. Thanos is beyond the Class 100 bricks in pure strength, too many in-continuity examples point to this to continue to deny it. - MrBigB
- As far as that goes, I think I remember in Secret Wars the Hulk was shown on the cover lifting a whole mountain. You can't take the listed, Marvel Handbook entries too seriously. Writers and artists probably don't want to be constrained by them. I remember an issue of Thor where Eric Masterson is shown holding Thor's apparently lifeless body in his arms; Thor, who supposedly weighs 640 lbs! I think when it comes to the strength levels of these superheavyweights, the best that you can really do is say that they're all around the same level, and it's impossible to tell who really is stronger. Biff Loman 17:02, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
- The Handbooks can be used as a reference for relative strengths, nothing more. - MrBigB Clarification on this one, the Handbook strength ratings can be used as a relative scale. 70.159.58.34 22:15, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
- Why do you feel that one exception is acceptable? CovenantD 13:47, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- What exception? Please clarify. Thanos has not only proven to be stronger than Class 100 characters one-on-one on too many occasions to mention, he has been depicted physically overpowering TWO Class 100 characters simultaneously on several occasions. If that doesn't show him exceeding the Class 100 category I don't know what does. There is a reason why Marvel has both Class 100 and Incalculable ratings, to signify when a character significantly exceeds those that are accepted Class 100 characters. The ONLY thing that throws a wrench into Class system is the laughable ranking based on the 100-ton scale. As I mentioned Class 75 Namor has pressed nuclear submarines with little effort, Thor lifted the midgard serpent, Hulk swam with an island on his back and braced the mountain in secret wars, Gladiator has moved planets and hoisted the Baxter Building, Class 80 Sasquatch hoisted a 250 ton airplane (stated in comic) then threw it against the thrust of its own engines and the list goes on and on. The tonnage system sucks, but using the strength "Classes" as a system of relative strength still works and doesn't fly in the face of continuity. MrBigB
- Most writers probably don't give a rat's hairy little ass about Handbook entries. A character is a strong or as fast as they need to be for the demands of a particular story. Biff Loman 18:59, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- They probably don't. And it isn't the Handbooks job to establish continuity but rather make sense of it. If Character X is shown as significantly stronger than Character Y in direct interaction then the Handbook should reflect that. Writers should be able to use the Handbooks as a basic reference for relative power or strength levels. MrBigB
- The Handbooks were published for gullible fans by a greedy comic book company. All we need to know is that these characters are superhumanly strong; who is stronger is up to the writer and the needs of the story. Biff Loman 19:25, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- So what you are saying is that established continuity is totally irrelevant. A writer decides to have SpiderMan physically overpower an enraged Savage Hulk to "fit the needs of the story" and that's fine. How about some ignorant writer decides to have Captain America lift an M1 Abrams because "it fits the needs of the story". We know these characters can't perform these feats under normal circumstances because of one reason, CONTINUITY. The Handbooks simply attempted to make sense of established continuity; in many ways they failed yet in many ways they also succeeded. MrBigB
- No, that's not what I'm saying at all. Biff Loman 21:40, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- That's what it looks like. Based on what you have written here it seems to me like you are saying that all characters with superhuman strength should be able to do anything the writer feels is necessary for the story. There IS a semi-defined hierarchy in the MU whether you acknowledge it or not. For example Spiderman should not be able to beat Thor in an armwrestling match, the Handbooks help to clarify things like this. Both characters have super strength so are readers supposed to suspend disbelief when some uninformed writer comes along and tries to tell him Spiderman is stronger than Thor under "normal circumstances" just because it "fits the needs of the story?" Hell no. So just what are you saying? - MrBigB
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- What, still no response for this one Biff? I'm not surprised. :) MrBigB 22:07, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
- Everyone else has abandoned this, BigB. They probably feel sorry for you. 67.71.141.180 14:59, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
- Weak (and I mean WEAK, weak, WEAK, weak) cop-out. Unless you can come up with a relevant rebuttal to anything (ANYTHING) I have said this is my final reply to you on this topic. Good day. MrBigB 22:27, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
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- That's what it looks like. Based on what you have written here it seems to me like you are saying that all characters with superhuman strength should be able to do anything the writer feels is necessary for the story. There IS a semi-defined hierarchy in the MU whether you acknowledge it or not. For example Spiderman should not be able to beat Thor in an armwrestling match, the Handbooks help to clarify things like this. Both characters have super strength so are readers supposed to suspend disbelief when some uninformed writer comes along and tries to tell him Spiderman is stronger than Thor under "normal circumstances" just because it "fits the needs of the story?" Hell no. So just what are you saying? - MrBigB
- No, that's not what I'm saying at all. Biff Loman 21:40, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- So what you are saying is that established continuity is totally irrelevant. A writer decides to have SpiderMan physically overpower an enraged Savage Hulk to "fit the needs of the story" and that's fine. How about some ignorant writer decides to have Captain America lift an M1 Abrams because "it fits the needs of the story". We know these characters can't perform these feats under normal circumstances because of one reason, CONTINUITY. The Handbooks simply attempted to make sense of established continuity; in many ways they failed yet in many ways they also succeeded. MrBigB
- The Handbooks were published for gullible fans by a greedy comic book company. All we need to know is that these characters are superhumanly strong; who is stronger is up to the writer and the needs of the story. Biff Loman 19:25, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- They probably don't. And it isn't the Handbooks job to establish continuity but rather make sense of it. If Character X is shown as significantly stronger than Character Y in direct interaction then the Handbook should reflect that. Writers should be able to use the Handbooks as a basic reference for relative power or strength levels. MrBigB
- Most writers probably don't give a rat's hairy little ass about Handbook entries. A character is a strong or as fast as they need to be for the demands of a particular story. Biff Loman 18:59, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- What exception? Please clarify. Thanos has not only proven to be stronger than Class 100 characters one-on-one on too many occasions to mention, he has been depicted physically overpowering TWO Class 100 characters simultaneously on several occasions. If that doesn't show him exceeding the Class 100 category I don't know what does. There is a reason why Marvel has both Class 100 and Incalculable ratings, to signify when a character significantly exceeds those that are accepted Class 100 characters. The ONLY thing that throws a wrench into Class system is the laughable ranking based on the 100-ton scale. As I mentioned Class 75 Namor has pressed nuclear submarines with little effort, Thor lifted the midgard serpent, Hulk swam with an island on his back and braced the mountain in secret wars, Gladiator has moved planets and hoisted the Baxter Building, Class 80 Sasquatch hoisted a 250 ton airplane (stated in comic) then threw it against the thrust of its own engines and the list goes on and on. The tonnage system sucks, but using the strength "Classes" as a system of relative strength still works and doesn't fly in the face of continuity. MrBigB
- Why do you feel that one exception is acceptable? CovenantD 13:47, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- The Handbooks can be used as a reference for relative strengths, nothing more. - MrBigB Clarification on this one, the Handbook strength ratings can be used as a relative scale. 70.159.58.34 22:15, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Point out a comic book (not the Handbook - a real, in-continuity comic) that uses the Class 100 system in regard to the characters you mention. CovenantD 22:31, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- CovenantD, I have pointed out several in-contintuity comics that have showcased Thanos demonstrating physical superiority over top tier characters, sometimes two at the same time. In the last revision to the article I even omitted the "Class 100" reference to take the focus off of the Handbooks. (even though I did not contribute the Class 100 mention to the Thanos article to begin with) This is to say nothing of his battles with Tyrant and Odin, both of whom have shown dramatic physical superiority to characters like the Surfer, Thor, Hercules and Gladiator. Still we see in-continuity examples of Thanos going to-to-toe with both of them and holding his own. A picture of Thanos engaging Tyrant hand-to-hand can be seen on the article main page, this is a feat shown to be beyond the strength capabilities of Gladiator, Beta Ray Bill, the Surfer, and Morg (all Class 100) IN-CONTINUITY.
- Here is what I stated above: "There are examples of Thanos simultaneously overpowering not only Thor & Thing (pre-death, before power-up), but also Hulk & Dumb(resurrected)-Drax (post-death powerup; IG) Hulk & Hercules (post-death powerup; issue involving Quasar) and the Silver Surfer on numerous occasions. Thanos is beyond the Class 100 bricks in pure strength, too many in-continuity examples point to this to continue to deny it." What more do you want? MrBigB
The Big problem is that you are trying to portray Thanos as stronger than all but the most cosmic and aesoteric characters. You'll not get a lot of support for that when we all know that it depends on the story, the writer and the editor - if they need a story where Spider-Man punches out Thanos, you can be assured that it will happen. Trying to say that he's stronger than everyone just isn't going to fly. CovenantD 23:12, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
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- I am not trying to portray Thanos in any way, I am only reporting what has been shown in the comics. If a writer needs a story where Spiderman punches out Thanos they will create the unique circumstances that will allow such a feat...or else Jim Starlin will be along to ret-con it away (as he did with the Thor and KaZar incidents). I do not even consider myself a Thanos fan but several of the users here, yourself included, are flat out REFUSING to accept proven character traits and are HARMING the Thanos article as a result. Your constant removal of these FACTS because you don't personally agree with them (or dislike me), with NO evidence to support the removal, IS vandalism. MrBigB
- You just don't get it, do you Mr.Big? Biff Loman 01:55, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
- Another one of those wonderful replies. Apparently I don't get something, perhaps you should express your point in a more articulate manner. Be prepared for feedback. MrBigB
- Firstly, you are in no position to accuse anyone of not expressing themself articulately. Looking at your posts, you obviously have an extremely poor understanding of the rules of grammar and punctuation. Never mind that you also, again obviously, lack the power of reason which most of the rest of the population of the world takes for granted. You might want to consider that you're the only one who doesn't understand. I don't see why I should waste more time on you when the chance that you will understand is so slim. You're just too stupid. Unfortunately, the hand you were dealt was not a kind one.
- Sure I am, you have provided nothing but insults on this thread. You have offered NOTHING (sorry, nothing) to refute ANYTHING (ANYTHING) I have said. You clearly lack the knowledge to engage me on this topic so you stick you insults and obscure comments. This is a common tactic for the willingly ignorant. MrBigB 21:51, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
- Firstly, you are in no position to accuse anyone of not expressing themself articulately. Looking at your posts, you obviously have an extremely poor understanding of the rules of grammar and punctuation. Never mind that you also, again obviously, lack the power of reason which most of the rest of the population of the world takes for granted. You might want to consider that you're the only one who doesn't understand. I don't see why I should waste more time on you when the chance that you will understand is so slim. You're just too stupid. Unfortunately, the hand you were dealt was not a kind one.
- Another one of those wonderful replies. Apparently I don't get something, perhaps you should express your point in a more articulate manner. Be prepared for feedback. MrBigB
67.71.142.157 11:49, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
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- As an example of your missing the point completely, see your above comments. You italicized all caps! From where I'm standing, you are the only one who has failed to construct a logical, reasoned argument. Other have refused to restate theirs because what they said was already perfectly clear in the original. On more than one occasion you have been invited to re-examine those comments, but have refused to do so. For someone who claims not to be a Thanos fan, you've spent an awful lot of time on this "discussion." 67.71.141.180 15:03, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
- Apparently you are not bright enough to grasp the reason WHY I italicized all caps. Do I need to spell it out for you Mr. Articulate? It was a slight againt YOU! Also, one should learn how to spelled "italicized" (not italized) before slamming others on grammar. Have a great day, Biff. 70.159.58.34 20:19, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
- Apparently the word "typo" is not in your vocabulary. The only one I see here making personal attacks is you. I know what you were trying to do in the above, italicizing your all caps, but obviously you failed. Let's see if you can figure out why. 67.71.141.27 20:52, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
- Btw, Big, I already stated my case quite clearly at the beginning, but you've yet to read (or at least understand it). I'm not the only one, either. You ignored and insulted another user as well. I have no need to restate my argument, and have just been enjoying your wonderful replies. You are certainly entertaining. This has gone on long enough, but feel free to keep writing if you want. 67.71.141.27 20:57, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
- You stated your case at the beginning but the presentation (and logic behind it) was weak and subsequently debunked. 70.159.58.34 22:15, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
- Btw, Big, I already stated my case quite clearly at the beginning, but you've yet to read (or at least understand it). I'm not the only one, either. You ignored and insulted another user as well. I have no need to restate my argument, and have just been enjoying your wonderful replies. You are certainly entertaining. This has gone on long enough, but feel free to keep writing if you want. 67.71.141.27 20:57, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
- Apparently the word "typo" is not in your vocabulary. The only one I see here making personal attacks is you. I know what you were trying to do in the above, italicizing your all caps, but obviously you failed. Let's see if you can figure out why. 67.71.141.27 20:52, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
- Apparently you are not bright enough to grasp the reason WHY I italicized all caps. Do I need to spell it out for you Mr. Articulate? It was a slight againt YOU! Also, one should learn how to spelled "italicized" (not italized) before slamming others on grammar. Have a great day, Biff. 70.159.58.34 20:19, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
- As an example of your missing the point completely, see your above comments. You italicized all caps! From where I'm standing, you are the only one who has failed to construct a logical, reasoned argument. Other have refused to restate theirs because what they said was already perfectly clear in the original. On more than one occasion you have been invited to re-examine those comments, but have refused to do so. For someone who claims not to be a Thanos fan, you've spent an awful lot of time on this "discussion." 67.71.141.180 15:03, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
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It's customary, Big, to use italics rather than capitalization for emphasis. 67.71.140.140 02:18, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
- :rolls eyes: MrBigB
- What, the rules don't apply to Mr (laughs) Big? Here's the thing: If you want people to even consider taking you seriously, you might want to come across as a guy who at least has some familiarity with the rules of the English language. Just a suggestion. If you don't want to do that, you're going to have to get used to being a joke for the rest of your life. I think that you're probably already used to that. How many wedgies did you get in high school? How many times were you stuffed into your locker? (Or are you even old enough to have been to high school? Probably you're not.) The name "MrBig" says it all. 67.71.142.157 11:49, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
- LMAO! So you are analyzing me based on the handle "MrBigB"? "MrBigB" is quite a bit different than "MrBig" BTW, don't know if you are sharp enough to catch that. MrBigB 21:51, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
- Maybe I'm having an off day myself, but it seems to me you're being evaluated based mainly on your comments made here, which don't make you look too good - or very sharp, that's for sure. I can say one thing positive about you, at least; you are certainly entertaining. I notice you didn't answer the questions... 67.71.141.180 14:59, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
- Once again, nothing but personal insults. Nice, Biff, nice, you are truly an invaluable asset to Wikipedia. 70.159.58.34 20:19, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
- Maybe I'm having an off day myself, but it seems to me you're being evaluated based mainly on your comments made here, which don't make you look too good - or very sharp, that's for sure. I can say one thing positive about you, at least; you are certainly entertaining. I notice you didn't answer the questions... 67.71.141.180 14:59, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
- LMAO! So you are analyzing me based on the handle "MrBigB"? "MrBigB" is quite a bit different than "MrBig" BTW, don't know if you are sharp enough to catch that. MrBigB 21:51, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
- What, the rules don't apply to Mr (laughs) Big? Here's the thing: If you want people to even consider taking you seriously, you might want to come across as a guy who at least has some familiarity with the rules of the English language. Just a suggestion. If you don't want to do that, you're going to have to get used to being a joke for the rest of your life. I think that you're probably already used to that. How many wedgies did you get in high school? How many times were you stuffed into your locker? (Or are you even old enough to have been to high school? Probably you're not.) The name "MrBig" says it all. 67.71.142.157 11:49, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
Good Lord this was a huge conversation! LOL TheBalance 02:47, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
- Huge, but pointless. Big just isn't in the same weight class as the rest of us. He couldn't hold up his end. 67.71.142.157 11:50, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
- * LOL! (rolls eyes) The sad thing is - you probably think this is true. MrBigB 21:51, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, it's obvious - Big is a little boy lost in a game of men. Or something. He's out of his depth, anyway. I mean, it's not like a real man would...well, never mind. Big's a loser. 'Nuff said! Todd Bridges 12:19, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
Since Namor's strength was brought up, I'd just like to point out that his Wikipedia entry says his strength is listed as Class 100 as of 2004, and looking at the panel where he lifts the oil tanker (http://img333.imageshack.us/img333/2802/namorfeat220rx.gif), it's in water, which would significantly reduce its weight. As for other characters, my Handbook knowledge only goes back as far as the Master Edition of the 90s. Thor and the Hulk had their strength listed as Incalculable, which was defined as in excess of 100 tons. They don't say how far in excess. I haven't read the issues where Thanos went toe-to-toe with some of the heroes mentioned, but I wouldn't be surprised if he used some of his other powers. I can't say if he did or not. Todd Bridges 19:40, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
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- That is not the instance I am referring to. I will try to find the image I am speaking of, in it he presses a submarine above his head while out of water; though he himself was wet at the time he was not immersed. As for Thanos' strength in relation to the heroes I mentioned - Thanos uses nothing but pure strength, no charged fists, no eye beams, no sneak attacks, nothing of the sort. Thanos performed the Moe Howard routine on Hercules and Professor Hulk (is Prof. Hulk funny too, Biff?) as well as on Thor and Thing and he easily backhanded Prof. Hulk and DUMB-Drax away from him during the Infinity Gauntlet ordeal. MrBigB 21:51, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
- I just can't watch this. MrBigB is the only one still contributing to this, and is having a conversation with himself. It's too painful to watch. The guy just doesn't realize how many times he's missed the point completely. One thing that's odd, too, is that he wastes so long to reply, hoping that the people he's replying to will be gone by then - and his puny intellect won't be challenged again. I feel bad just having wasted this much time here - imagine being MrBigB! 67.71.141.180 14:59, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
- You continue to say I am the only one responding, yet here is another response from you on June 30, 2006 at 14:59. You claim that I am missing the point? LMAO! 70.159.58.34 20:19, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
- You certainly seem to enjoy laughing your ass off. 67.71.141.27 20:54, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, I must admit you provide me with a modicum of entertainment. 70.159.58.34 22:15, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
- Why did you take on so many different socks in your attempt to debate me? You commented on your own comments on this page. The Todd Bridges and Biff Loman pages gave me some rather interesting insights about you. Interesting reading to say the least. MrBigB 20:14, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, I must admit you provide me with a modicum of entertainment. 70.159.58.34 22:15, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
- You certainly seem to enjoy laughing your ass off. 67.71.141.27 20:54, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
- You continue to say I am the only one responding, yet here is another response from you on June 30, 2006 at 14:59. You claim that I am missing the point? LMAO! 70.159.58.34 20:19, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
This whole disscusion is pointless, since using stats from the Handbook is a copyright violation and should be removed. T-1000 00:40, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Powers and Abilities
User 72.192.204.181, you keep adding in that whole "Hulk avoidance" bit as if it was something of real importance. It isn't. It add nothing to the article as a whole since that section already mentions that Thanos prefers to outwit opponents. To that end, I'm removing it yet again. --^o^CORVUS^o^ | Talk, 13 march 2006
[edit] Thanos's immortality
Should Thanos still be considered immortal due to rejection by Death after the events of Avengers: Celestial Quest #8 and thanos #7 where Death made peace with Thanos and was willing to accept him?
Kyo-1 For Now (Annihilation Timeline), Thanos is not Inmortal. He explains it in Thanos Quest 1 to Runner [We are not inmortals, Simply, we make old too slow...]. The Death made the peace with him in the last number of "The End" and she return his 'favor' and 'friendship' [XD] to him.
- Technically, I guess a character would have to be totally beyond death by any means to qualify as immortal. As an Eternal, however, he's still at least ageless. Biff Loman 19:02, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
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the use of the term Rip off in the begining seems a little harsh
i see someone edited the term out. Squanderdalfast 00:40, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Rob bank
Can anyone tell me in what issue of Spiderman, Thanos is shown robbing a bank
> I don't know anything about that, but in "Spidey Super Stories" #39, Thanos is on the hunt for the Cosmic cube and uses a Thanos-copter to track it down. He battles Spidey and the Cat (Hellcat), and is defeated and taken away by the police. Its hilarious. --^o^CORVUS^o^ | Talk, 18 June 2006
[edit] Insanity
I remember an issue where Thanos tapped into his "power cosmic" in an effort to confront the child of huimself and Death. Tapping this energy costs him his sanity (invokes mania, I believe). But I found no other mention of it in anything else. Was it mentioned anywhere else? Is it considered canon? AlGorup 16:46, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
> That took place in the "Celestial Quest" mini-series. Yes, the series is considered canon AFAIK, however, the version of Thanos that appeared therin was later stated to be a Thanosi clone. A clone evidently capable of fooling Mentor, Eros, Death and Eternity himself into believing it to be the real deal. --^o^CORVUS^o^ | Talk, 18 June 2006
[edit] Mistakes and Errors
Kyo-1 Thanos can't (and never do) destroy the Heart of the Universe... if he could do it, The Livin Tribunal, Eternity and All Marvel Universe dies. Remember than the Heart is one of the two items than exceeds the Livin Tribunal's Power and they Sentences [The Inifinity Gaunlet is the other item than exceeds the Livin Tribunal's Power cause the Gaunlet is the Physic form Of The One].
- There is no evidence that suggests that the IGs power exceeds the power of the LT. - MrBigB
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- Technically, you're right, cause no one said that... but it's very obvious than the Infinity Gaunlet's Power is Supreme even to take care of the Living Tribunal's Sentences and Demands. In "The END" (5th Issue) Thanos said: 'The IG gave me total control of Space, Time, Power, Reallity, Mind and Souls, but it was a EXTERNAL control'... if Thanos controls all facts of the Reallity with a infinity power (Reallity Gem + Power Gem), he can control the Sentences of LT. Kyo-1
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[edit] The Most Powerful Eternal?
Is this ("the most powerful of the Eternals") really true? I mean, is he considered to been more powerful even than Zuras was? 70.53.108.169 14:52, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
- If Thanos could go toe-to-toe with Odin, even though he lost I think he'd probably be able to beat Zuras. Todd Bridges 20:45, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
I've read that he was the most powerful of the Titan born Eternals but I've never heard of him being referred to as the most powerful Eternal, period. Zuras was the most powerful of the Earth born Eternals and, to my knowledge, never faced Thanos in battle so who was more powerful can only be assumed since Zuras is dead. Thanos is probably the most powerful Eternal still living, but labeling him as the overall most powerful ever is subject to debate. Odin's Beard 02:20, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Earth X
Should it be mentioned that in the universe of Earth X, Thanos' distinctive appearance was due to his mother having been a Skrull? Ekchuah 12:34, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
- If its mentioned specifically that such is the case only within the Earth X Universe, then yes. In the 616 universe, his appearance is due to "deviant syndrome", and not partial Skrull parentage. --^o^CORVUS^o^ | Talk, 5 July 2006
- I might add an 'Alternate Versions' or 'Earth X' section about the Earth/Universe/Paradise X version. It departs in several ways from the 616 version: his appearance owned to his mother having been a Skrull (his siblings looked 'human' because she learned to shift her organs after his birth), he believed his mother to have been Death, and was manipulated by Death in furtherance of his belief to act as her servant. Would anybody mind that? Ekchuah 05:21, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
- Sounds like a good idea to me. --Mrph 00:32, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
- I might add an 'Alternate Versions' or 'Earth X' section about the Earth/Universe/Paradise X version. It departs in several ways from the 616 version: his appearance owned to his mother having been a Skrull (his siblings looked 'human' because she learned to shift her organs after his birth), he believed his mother to have been Death, and was manipulated by Death in furtherance of his belief to act as her servant. Would anybody mind that? Ekchuah 05:21, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Bias
Is the part of Thanos' history covering Thanos: The End as free of bias as it could be? The length dedicated to that one mini-series and certain phrases such as "the cunning being that he is" seem to show to much favortism. I do not argue that he isn't cunning, but that is discussed under the powers section. On the length part, several paragraphs are dedicated to it compared to the much smaller onces covering his previous exploits.
Doesn't suggest any bias to me at all. Thanos "the cunning being that he is" is like stating something about how vastly strong beings like the Hulk and Thor are. The mini-series istelf was called Marvel: The End, it just happened to revolve around Thanos' latest bid to gain omnipotence. I feel, however, that it deserves it's own section or an explanation because "The End" series in and of itself isn't canon, especially with the way they worked it out as to where Thanos gives up his omnipotence, yet again. Odin's Beard 01:15, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Adrenaline Rush?
Maybe that is the cause of Namor Lifting several thousand tons.--ThanosMadTitan23 02:47, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Astral Projection
How many times has Thanos used astral projection without some sort of aid, ie. Moondragon? HoosierDaddy 14:29, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Marvel: The End
--Kyo-1 14:27, 7 August 2006 (UTC) Is possible than this history can be a MU continuation ?. In the Last Issue no-one (even Eternity or L.T.) can't remember anything about this, only Thanos and Adam Warlock do it cause they're the only 'survivors' of the End...
- I'm fairly certain all the various "The End" comics are as canonical as Earth X, Days of Future Past, or any other "this is one possible future" comic. I.e., things happening in it don't necessarily relfect what's happening in the present 616 continuity. --Dr Archeville 21:13, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Eternals
At what point was Thanos linked in to Kirby's Eternals - that was not part of Starlin's original version. -- Beardo 15:45, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
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- Probably the best source with which to find out the possible answer to that is this website: http://www.corvusonline.net/thanos/thanos.html It's probably the most comprehensive and detailed website devoted to any single comic book character that I've ever seen. If the answer's not in there, then I dunno if there's any other place on the web to find it. Odin's Beard 00:20, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
- Avengers, I think. I remember a story featuring Eros, Maelstrom and the Eternals - in which the Titans and Eternals realised they were related. Not sure if that's the very first reference to it, but... --Mrph 00:34, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
- Good question, and sadly I've no idea where to begin looking. I know the Eternals, Deviants and Celestials weren't originally meant to be part of the core Marvel Universe, and Thanos appeared approx. three years before those guys first appeared. --Dr Archeville 18:10, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Ultimate Thanos
Just an early warning - Marvel's Jan 2007 solicitation text states that Ultimate Thanos is about to be introduced in Ultimate Fantastic Four. I'd suggest we leave him out 'til he's published, rather than adding him now, but... --Mrph 07:29, 19 October 2006 (UTC)