User talk:The Thadman

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It's a Girl! Eliyah "Eli" Estelle Caruso Born October 22nd @ 3:10AM EST

Steve is taking a short wikibreak and will be back on Wikipedia this Tuesday as he and his wife are caring for their new daughter!

Please feel free to leave me a message here by adding a new section. I'll get back to it as soon as I can. If you have an Advocacy Request or a complaint I would prefer that you leave it on my Desk. אמר Steve Caruso (desk/poll) 17:43, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] AMA

Congratulations! I'm a little strapped for time myself but I will do my best alongside Aeon1006 to keep the AMA afloat. Take things easy and don't worry about things here. :) Wikiwoohoo _talk 20:11, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Congrats steve! I will be away myself for a whil;e but should be back next week. Æon ^{Insanity Now!}_EA! 21:12, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Congrats Steve! Take as long a break as you need. We'll all pull up our boots and keep things running here! -Royalguard11(Talk·Desk) 22:03, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cases rising rapidly

But firstly, congratulations :). The problem is that we now have over 14 cases, and few advocates taking them (I'll be away for a few days, then will take on another). I'm wondering sif we could leave a "newsletter" on the user pages of all members, asking them to update their entry on the members page or take a case. I'll be happy to do this if it's worth it... (ps - this message is for the deputy co-ordinators too :)) -- Martinp23 18:30, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

I would say that would be a great idea, if anything, so that we could see just who can and can't help, plus possibly who no longer edits or is on a Wikibreak. Wikiwoohoo _talk 16:20, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Congrates also, Steve! I've picked up a few low impact cases, my dancecard is full for the time being.--Amerique 03:05, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

OK - I've spammed most members now, omitting the co-ordinators and Royalguard11 and one or two others. Sadly, for many, the last message was either an invite to the elecitons or a request to go to the AMA roll call. Martinp23 21:33, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I returned to AMA

(According to the AMA Hompage I must do this... although I'm returning not simply joining) I'm again an AMA advocate!... Any question I have about new things in the association, I won't doubt in asking you. Bye! --Neigel von Teighen 22:35, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Could use your help

User:Shotwell has been busy creating difficulties in a manner similiar to that of user:Sarner on the Candace Newmaker, Bowlby, Advocates for Children in Therapy, and Dysdic Developmental Psychotherapy articles. Because a question was raised about his relationship with Sarner and a sockpuppet was uncoverd by a mediator, he has retaliated by labeling everyone in the dispute a sockpuppet. I could really use some help here; an advocate to get this stopped. I think the mediator is over his head and does not know what do to...he's not responded in a while. I'd appreciate some advice, direction, and help...should this go to arbitration? DPeterson^talk 03:24, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I truly apologize for not getting to this sooner. Are you still in need of assistance, my friend? אמר Steve Caruso _(desk/AMA) 17:42, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Not a problem...you've been busy with a wonderful joy. (I have a few children). Best wishes to all. User:Addhoc has agreed to be an advocate here. It's a pretty complex one as I've described...but he has agreed, so that should work just fine. Take care. DPeterson^talk 00:34, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Modest proposals for some sort of AMA case screening/rejection process

It seems to me that we can't easily handle the high volume of cases while maintaining a quality program. It seems to me that we can greatly reduce the inflow of cases by setting some standards as to the cases we will accept. I was thinking the most obvious way of doing this would be to only accept cases that are obviously going to be or already are in some stage of the WP:DR process, which would mean a controversial restructuring of the AMA I know, but it seems to me that the multitude of low level cases that simply require minor "helping hand" interventions would be much better served by an organization like Esperanza.

We should also develop some process for notifying users who submit advocacy requests that haven't been picked up in, say 10 days, as having been declined by the AMA. New cases of varying interest pile up all the time, and it would be better to formally decline old cases we couldn't get to than to let them sit without action. Best,--Amerique 07:36, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I completely see where you're coming from, Amerique. It would make sense to put an expiration date on new cases, as sometimes I have seen that when an Advocate gets around to fielding an old case that things have already been resolved, help was really never needed in the first place, or parties were blocked or left before any help could be administered.

I'm wondering if there is some way for us to get a dialogue going with Esperanza to see what level of sharing would be doable? אמר Steve Caruso _(desk/AMA) 17:30, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

There is an Esperanza page for proposing new programs here: Wikipedia:Esperanza/Proposals. I am not a member of nor have I ever had any "official" interactions with Esperanza, but they are listed on the WP:DR page here: Wp:dr#Informal_mediation. Perhaps at the next AMA meeting we could discuss with Esperanza members in the AMA what sort of program we could co-develop with them that would effectively promote our respective organizational missions. Best,--Amerique ^dialectics 22:03, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AMA

I have put myself on the list of members, will see if I can help out.--Konst.able^Talk 03:01, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Meeting Soon?

We've got a number of topics to discuss at Wikipedia:AMA Meeting (suggested topics). Maybe it's time for another meeting? It's been a few months. Maybe a bump to all advocates will energize us again. -Royalguard11(Talk·Desk) 01:09, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Indeed, we are long overdue for a meeting. We should first go over meeting topics to see what we need to focus on, prep the meeting page by posting introductory blurbs like last time, and then start gathering together everyone's attention. :-) אמר Steve Caruso _(desk/AMA) 17:33, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Closing Cases

Hi Steve, I've been through the open and pending cases today, to see if any are ready for closing. I closed a pending case Wikipedia:AMA_Requests_for_Assistance/Requests/October_2006/wgungfu as it seems to have gone away after the AIV and a bit of a wait. I've left messages on two of your other cases:

• Wikipedia:AMA_Requests_for_Assistance/Requests/October_2006/OkamiItto looks ready to close, as your message seems to be accepted, and Duke53 doesn't look like he'll be replying any time soon (though he is active, no reply has been left - this may or may not be something to chase up..)
• Wikipedia:AMA Requests for Assistance/Requests/September 2006/antoinettenora is almost certainly ready to close - the (strange combination of) users involved have all left wikipedia (AFAIK) and the article up for discussion has been deleted twice, once under AfD, and then for recreation of deleted material!

Thanks, Martinp23 16:04, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Martin :-) I would have closed these a week or so ago. They're taken care of now. :-) אמר Steve Caruso _(desk/AMA) 17:39, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

OK - no problem ‎ Martinp23 17:51, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FYI

Sorry to come out of nowhere with this, but I thought you should know about this particular edit [1]. It appears that nobody has noticed and I wanted to make sure somebody was aware of what was going on. -- Gogo Dodo 04:44, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

I am afraid that I am a bit at a loss for context. :-( What particularly about this edit needs extra attention? If you could articulate it a bit better with more context I will do what I can. אמר Steve Caruso _(desk/AMA) 07:05, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps I was mistaken. Nathan previously took on an AMA case [2] where he wasn't supposed to. See User talk:Nathannoblet/Archive4#AMA. But if I am mistaken and Nathan is okay, then my apologies. -- Gogo Dodo 07:11, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi - sorry to interrupt here - I thought I'd better offer my input, having been involved with Nathan's previous case in the past, in Steve's absence. The problem which he was previously having was that he was not familiar with WP:DR - judging by his comments on his next case, I'm willing to WP:AGF that he has learnt what he needs to know - I, for one, will be watching the case. The general issue surrounding this problem is due for discussion at the next meeting, but for now, I've offered Nathan any help he needs (on IRC) :) The friendly AMA bot told myself and Royalguard11 that a case had been taken - Royalguard11 proceeded to find out that it had been taken by Nathan, and I'm sure that both of us will be taking an interest in it. Thanks -- Martinp23 17:40, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

See my reply on Martin's Talk page. -- Gogo Dodo 18:29, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

And my subsequent reply :) - you may also want to take a look at WT:AMA for what brought Nathan to our attention to start with -- thanks, Martinp23 19:08, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi (again!) - the case is now effectively over, and is just waiting for Nathan to close [3] Martinp23 20:57, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Courtesy "CC" just to continue the flow of the conversation. -- Gogo Dodo 05:29, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Advocating multiple sides of conflict

Steve, Amerique, AddHoc, and I are now representing different parties in an ongoing dispute. See:

• Wikipedia:AMA_Requests_for_Assistance/Requests/October_2006/shotwell;
• Wikipedia:AMA_Requests_for_Assistance/Requests/November_2006/DPeterson; and
• Wikipedia:AMA_Requests_for_Assistance/Requests/October_2006/RalphLender

I think that's great, and am hoping Amerique and I can resolve the conflict to everyone's satisfaction, but I wanted to touch base on the Advocacy policy for that situation. Specifically, the relevant section of the AMA FAQ states:

“ If there are advocates representing both or multiple sides of a dispute those Advocates shall only communicate with consulting advocates as appointed by the AMA so as to create a Chinese wall between the differing sides of the dispute. When advocates communicate with each other on differing sides of a dispute they do so in a cooperative manner; however, their individual priorities are keeping their advocees' interests in mind while working towards resolution. Obviously advocates are only members of the AMA as an association, not a business concern, and members of the AMA are not otherwise in contact with each other and keep information that they receive from disputants confidential if necessary.”

—AMA FAQ, "What is the relationship between advocates"

I've read that section several times, and I'm not sure what it means. Should Amerique, AddHoc and I only communicate through a "consulting advocate?" If so, who is the consulting advocate? Can we all post comments on the relevant talk pages? Thanks, TheronJ 14:21, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Temp Resign from Deputy Job

Hey Steve I'm going on extended wikibreak (setting up a new forum, busy at work, and some of the general attitdue on the wiki is annoying me latey not sure why.) So I will be gone untill next year. Æon ^{Insanity Now!}_EA! 17:00, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Meeting proposal

Hi Steve. Just wanted to let you know that I have made a proposal for the next meeting of discussing my role and activities so far as a deputy. Since like you I have had little time available for Wikipedia recently, I would like to see what other members think of me and whether they may feel I should step down. I think it would be good to receive feedback either way. How does that grab you? Hope mother and child (and father) are doing well :). Wikiwoohoo 19:49, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Just joined AMA

Just joined your wonderful project, I hope that I will contribute to my max and settle disputes between users. I'd be glad if you would appoint me to a case.

Thank you for such an opportunity, --GeorgeTopouria 11:38, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New AMA member

Just to let you know, I just joined AMA. I've got a few Cabal cases going right now, but I'm able to pick up a few advocacy cases as well. I'll look through the new requests over the next few days and try to knock a few off. Congrats on the baby! →Bobby← 20:39, 13 November 2006 (UTC)