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[edit] Main Hardcore Punk Article: Trouble in Dodge

Please come over to the RfC here. There's been a persistent vanity-editor adding content to the article. (I'll delete this when it's resolved.) Auto movil 21:58, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

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I read the article on "Hardcore Punk" and its seems to be from an entirely American point of view... almost as if the UK scene was some kind of incidental thing. I was a punk in the early 80s in the UK and I and my friends considered ourselves to be into "hardcore punk". We considered bands like Discharge, Disorder etc hardcore and we had really never heard much US punk except the Dead Kennedys and few others. Of course it doesnt really matter what a style is called but I dont recognise what was written at all although I know a lot of the bands mentioned. In fact some the "Early history in Europe" is almost insulting. For example maybe the reason Black Flag didnt go down so well is some of their records didnt sound so great, not because people had any predudice. People LOVED the Dead Kennedys. Also "Expressive fans of Crass, were called crassholes." What ??! By who ? Who felt the need to write something like that ?? Should we note as a point of interest every petty insult people in different sub genres called each other behind their backs. That kind of thing is at the very least boring.
(Please sign your comments mate, thanks) I have to agree that several of the articles I have stumbled across (I have a day-job that precludes too much editing activity at the moment) strike a ridiculously American POV at times. Perhaps that is unfair - they strike a ridiculously inept and incorrect POV at times, and I truly hope and expect that this isn't merely an American trait. American editors of punk rock are always ALWAYS valuable if they are contributing to the American aspects of punk that they know about, but it seems to me that American bias and/or guesswork and/or possibly-American nonsense-of-indeterminate-provenance is all compromising the presence of UK facts on WP with regards to punk rock. To see how ridiculous some of it is, you really do have to be a UK punk, I'm afraid.
A tighter emphasis on verifiable facts might help. Most of the problematic material is complete and utter POV. Yes, sorry folks, but original UK punks are still alive and well, and they are quite able to remember the way these things really happened! I remember an AfD kerfuffle regarding Pathetique, wherein many editors (some American) swore blind that the very real punk sub-genre never even existed (some laughably equated it with an invention called "funny punk"), until they were educated in the right direction by laborious referencing by (presumably) UK editors - including me. "Funny punk", FWIW, (I can confirm as a UK punk) never existed east of NYC.
Punk Pathetique had to fight its ground with copious quotes, way beyond the call of duty, just because some non-UK-punks had never heard of it. Well then, surely the same stringent referencing should apply to all the general sweeping statements made by (certain) editors who clearly know nothing of which they write in relation to punk rock. If I ever get the time, I will go through several punk articles and rigorously reference them. Until that time, maybe we should all start by referencing ALL our claims, and if we find claims that cannot be referenced, then perhaps they should all surely be summarily deleted with... um... extreme prejudice? :-) --DaveG12345 22:06, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Punk house

  • I have an article in the Deletion Review section about Theta Beta Potata, its linked to punk house right now and it looks like the decision reached at the Deletion Review might effect both those articles. I'd appreciate any other opinions in the matter. Some users, it seems, are even questioning the notability of a punk house article. I do think that as the WikiProject Punk music group we should support the article on punk houses, at the very least, and then recommend some kind of criteria for separate articles about specific punk houses. Another option which was mentioned would be to have a paragraph about specific notable punk houses on the punk house article and not have separate pages for them. I'll repost this on the front page of the WikiProject PM. Thanx. Here's the link to the TBP Deletion Review Discussion. Scroll down to post, there are around 10 responses so far. Xsxex 14:22, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
  • I put the WikiProject Punk music banner on the Punk house article. I think this article is strongly related to Punk music. Xsxex 14:57, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

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  • Bad Religion, blink-182, My Chemical Romance, The Offspring and The Ramones could use some song samples.
  • Pop punk/Punk pop need sources and to have POV monitored.
    • How does the article look now? There have been some significant changes over the past month and a half. I'm not saying it should its at featured status yet, but i think improvements have been made. Any thoughts, ideas? You can address specific sections on the talk page for the article. Xsxex 14:58, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Punk ideology needs to be approached from a totally different perspective to how it is now. At the moment it is just a list of various political stances on a wide variety of subjects. This is why the page is so riven with arguments. It needs to be approached from a sociological/subculturalstance which properly takes into account the differences of punk ideology and why there are differences rather than just attaching any ideology that a punk band might once have wrote s song about. artoftheusername 21/04/06
    • Although there are some problems, I do think that as a general overview of most punk's views this page is fairly accurate (although it does need major cleanup). This discussion should probably move to the talk page though. The Ungovernable Force 05:25, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
      • Punk has too often been covered in a purely subcultural direction (e.g. by punks for punks) or by non-punk academic third parties that entirely miss the aspects of identity, community, and philosophy that bind punk and punks together. The ideology section needs to be entirely changed and approached in a sociological, philosophical, and political way. Not just listing punks' beliefs or looking at punk as an animal in a zoo. Y.Pestis
        • I agree with all three comments thus far. I'm interested in being part of the discussion. I do agree, as Artoftheusername stated, that the article should be broader and more focused on the root of punk ideology. its gonna be a touchy one. ok. Xsxex 14:26, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Joy Division should probably have the history section rearranged in order to flow better. Song samples would also be useful.
  • List of musical punk genres should probably be renamed, possibly to "List of punk rock genres"
    • Both doesn't exist! Ido50 00:02, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Resolve genre debates going on at Green Day
  • Wire (band) really needs to include history of the band before 1979, in addition to being cleaned up.
  • The Lookouts - Expand the article and add sources.
  • Discuss proposed changes to the project at the project's discussion page.

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