Wikipedia:WikiProject Metalworking
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Metalworking is a broad subject, consisting of many different tools, techniques, materials, and theories. The goal of this project is to organize this information into a consistent, easy to use collection of articles, with minimal duplication.
All are encouraged to contribute to articles as much as possible, including to this wikiproject page.
Related project:Woodworking WikiProject
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[edit] How to help
Keep reading :)
Contribute, and help out:
- where you can
- when you can
- add some feedback
- spread the word
- put the Wikiproject notice on related talk pages.
- submit an article request to articles that should exist but don't
- find and categorize a lost metalworking page
- Adopt a stub
- start an article, (remember you don't have to finish it — it's a wiki!)
- put the articles on your watchlist and help us revert nonsense (especially spam)
- If the wikiproject has stalled - restart it.
all of this can involve a little, or a lot of time - the choice is yours.
If being a contributor sounds like too much, then ease into it by adding your name as a project supporter
[edit] Problems
Please, feel free to update or correct this list!
As of the start of this project, there seem to be a number of obvious problems:
- A lack of some important articles (or, at least, they haven't been found yet), such as different types of milling machines and techniques.
- A lack of a main page; metalworking is just a very incomplete list of articles.
- A lack of coherence between pages. Pages have random layouts and vastly differing organization and language, and terminology differs between pages with no explanation.
- A lack of internal links. Many pages are minimally linked to, and some are not linked to at all.
- Redundancy and (often conflicting) duplication. Partly due to the difficulty finding pages, some topics are covered on two or more pages, and often those pages disagree.
- A lack of a consistent organization system or navigation between articles. No grouping of articles is performed other than what's implied by the internal links in the article text.
- Darrensavery appears to be adding advertising links to a few articles. I'm not removing them outright, as the webpages have some information, though they're clearly commerical webpages pushing a product line.
[edit] To-do list
Again, please update or correct this list! Last edited by --Meawoppl 00:16, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
Some things that need to be done:
- Create a better to-do list.
- Create a better project page, possibly one in which I don't talk in the first person for the whole thing.
- Get Drill bit up to Featured List Status (95% there!).
- Go through Category:Tools and its subcategories and categorize metalworking tools
- Go through Category:Manufacturing and its subcategories and categorize metalworking-related articles
- Categorize (and eventually expand) metalworking-related articles in Category:Tools_stubs
- Ensure that metalworking tools mentioned in tools, Power tools and Hand tools are categorized in Category:Metalworking
- Search on "metalworking", "mill", "machining", etc., to find uncategorized articles
- Work on merging duplicates. (for example, endmill might be merged into milling cutter).
- Figure out what articles are missing and need to be written, and post an articles-to-write to-do list somewhere.
- Work on internal links between articles.
- Create a main metalworking page that provides a glossy introduction to the subject
- Start writing articles on the to-be-written list
- Create a plan on possibly organizing a woodworking, fasteners, materials science, or other projects. Preferably in a fashion that won't involve any of the original people working on this project, as we'll all be burnt out and never want to sort another article into another category ever again.
- Create a "Metalworking History" page which discusses the history mentioning primitive tools and techniques
- Cleanup the {Metalworking - Metalworking Smiths} template, which mixes up tools & trades.
[edit] Proposed list of categories
This list has been moved to the article list at Wikipedia:WikiProject Metalworking/Article list. Bushytails 23:49, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Current activities
(That we know about, add yours here)
- I've requested a peer review of Gas tungsten arc welding, and will be soon nominating it for featured status. --Spangineeres (háblame) 20:53, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- Metalworking - make it into a nice pretty introduction page (see draft page). — Discuss entry page
- Next is to do all the mini portal articles ----
Metalworking topics: |
Casting | CNC | Cutting tools | Drilling and threading | Fabrication | Finishing | Grinding | Jewellery | Lathe (tool) | Machining | Machine tooling | Measuring | Metalworking | Hand tools | Metallurgy | Milling | Occupations | Press tools | Smithing | Terminology | Welding |
- Navigation boxes for relevant pages (either mini or maxi depending on existing categories). These are mostly done, they just need attaching to the bottom of each articles page, by group.
- Ordering the coating techniques better, a start is made with the list of coating techniques.
- Working on Die (manufacturing). Will need help with copy editing as project progresses.I already forgot 08:53, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
- As requested, gear cutting. Might add some CNC stuff later. As not requested, jig grinder. Because I like jig grinders. Grindy. Also, way expanded the article on bandsaws. Updated milling machine with a section on subtypes of mills. Updated screw machine with information on automatic chuckers and rotary transfers. - Toastydeath 03:44, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Articles
[edit] List of articles needing attention
The big article list can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Metalworking/Article list -- PLEASE add any articles you find/create to the list!
Articles needing work:
- Endmill - Possibly merge into milling cutter? — Discuss milling cutters
- Metalworking - make into a nice pretty introduction page (see draft page). — Discuss entry page
- Drill - in pretty sad shape. Needs serious rewrite, needs descriptions of gimlet, brace, eggbeater, hand-held electric drills, drill press, etc. — Discuss drills
- Drill bit - I have some beef with the brad point bit and step drill articles. Pardon the aggressive tone, I didn't mean it the way I wrote it. Anyone who can chime in, please do so; I want like to get some of the stuff clarified and altered in those articles but won't start mucking around without more input on the talk page. - Toastydeath 21:41, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
- Lathe, Lathe (metal), and other lathe articles - lots of duplication between articles; needs to be split cleanly. Will be easier once all the lathe-related articles are grouped.— Discuss lathes
- Coin die, Die (manufacturing), Coining (machining) and die making have some serious overlapping and sorting to be done. — Discuss coining
Height gauge - huh? Discuss Height gauge- Sheet metal and Sheet metal forming quick comment at its talk page, otherwise — Discuss Sheetmetal
- reclaim Forging (currently a redirect to forge, needs to be an introduction page for Smiths?
I posted a note on the discussion page for "forge" to the effect that I would be making changes to this end soon. If I have not seen any objections by mid next week I'll start the edits. Erraunt 19:55, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
- Spark testing metals - I drew up a (very bad) image for it, but it's still a stub.
- Marking out - Expand into a full introduction to laying out, procedures, etc?
File (tool) and File (metalwork) - should they be merged?Yes -- done.
- Oxy-fuel welding and cutting has a lot of information phrased as a howto that needs to be reworked
[edit] Articles that should exist but don't
Several articles on milling machines. Types, number of axis, etc, etc.
Gear cutting seems non-existant (it exists now! - Toastydeath)... The article on hobbing machines is barely a stub.
trammel (engineers)
The article for punch presses should be broadened and or broken out into the details of progressive die stamping versus forging. It could also include details of short run punch press machines.
A article should exist here outlining setup of a job on a mill or CNC table; vises, sign plates, cutting methods, trade tips. Some of these topics are not even taught in college anymore.
A description of semiconductor dies would be helpful, possibly tying into information on sensor chips. Bob Stromberg 16:46, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
Tin snips - straight cutting, right cutting, left cutting. Kratos15354 04:59, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
I would like to add something on rotary and steel-rule dies, but I am not sure if I should create a new article or add to the article on Die (Manufacturing), which deals primarily with punch press dies. Please advise --Rjstrock 20:13, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Stubs
Facing definition moved to turning, Grindstone (tool),
Smiths: Hardy tools, Hobbing machine, pritchel, Slack tub, Sword making, Thread pitch gauge, Trip hammer, Whitesmith, Work hardening,
Jewellery:Findings (needs images too), Goldwork, Omega chain, Wire wrap jewellery
Casting:Molding sand,
[edit] Needing attention (wikifying etc)
[edit] Request for deletion/comments/proposed merges/Wiktionary...
Please list here any metalworking-related articles you happen to come across that have been proposed for merge (or moves), listed for deletion on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion or Wikipedia:Categories for deletion, comments on Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Maths, natural science, and technology, proposed Wiktionary moves, or for that matter, any other relevant wikishuffle.
This will at least ensure they don't go un-noticed. Comment as you see fit, but please comment on each proposal.
- Proposed merge of Spirit level and Spirit leveling.
Proposed merge of File (metalwork) and File (tool).Done.- Proposed merge of plumb bob and plumb line
[edit] Templates
Wikipedia:WikiProject Metalworking/Template list
- Wikiproject
- Navigation
[edit] Wikiproject notice
Text to use at the top of article talk pages is:-
{{Metalworking}}
Suggested Edit summary (This is here so that a quick cut and paste does the job, no stress involved):
Template for Wikiproject {{Metalworking}}
If the article is also woodworking related then add the following
{{Metalworking}}{{Woodworking}}
perhaps reorder it depending on the articles focus.
{{Woodworking}}{{Metalworking}}
Once again a suggested Cut'nPaste Edit summary:
Template for Wikiproject {{Metalworking}}{{Woodworking}}
[edit] Contributors
Add your name here! Yes, you!
- Bushytails - Project founder; amateur machinist; power-tool wielding wolfie.
- Graibeard - metalworking related images for reuse, and image requests welcomed
- Luigizanasi at the interface between woodworking and metalworking
- Erraunt Willing to help. Part time blacksmith. Posted a few comments on blacksmithing and forge and sees the need.
- Joe1011010 - Started to review Manufacturing - this is a worthy effort too.
- Spangineer - working on welding topics
- Joe I - Centrifugal casting foundry lab analyst, also in WikiProject:Numismatics if you're interested. :)
- Mikeblas - Contributed English Wheel. Let me know how else I can help.
- Seán - Just started.
- Mtgarvin 21:49, 15 March 2006 (UTC)Just adding a few historical notes
- Kratos15354 - Probably adding little bits here and there to existing pages, amateur metal worker.
- Jburstein - Engineering student. Beginning to try to deal with the unwieldy lump of writing that is drill bit.
- Peterkingiron - Adding detail on historical aspects of metals, particularly iron - have studied the subject for many years and have doctorate in economic history.
- ENat1 - Welding/CADD/NDT I'll help out categorizing the project a bit. I might add a few articles.
- Iepeulas - Professional metallurgist and materials engineer. I'll be adding expertise and information to articles that fall within my area of knowledge.
- Meawoppl -Found this project in dire need of my assistance!
- User:Bridesmill - silversmith, wikiholic (already did some re. raising, work on jewellery, PMC)
- User:Toastydeath - Trying to find an apprenticeship in tool and die making as we speak. I've taken an interest in odd or more uncommon machines.
- User:Jbin - Metalsmith: mokume, goldsmithing, blacksmithing,
- Ben FrantzDale
- Rjstrock - Converting industry. Specialize in rotary and steel rule die cutting. Would like to contribute.
- User:middlenamefrank - Electronics Engineer. Have extensively re-organized and updated the "Soldering" entry. Still needs some work but it's come a long ways. Please review!
[edit] Project supporters
- SietskeEN 11:01, 26 January 2006 (UTC) - working on Dutch wikipedia articles relating to materials science & engineering
[edit] Notes
This page sounds excessively bureaucratic. this should be fixed.