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The Beatles WikiProject manages over 600 articles related to The Beatles, with a broad and nested hierarchy of categories covering them. This section is an attempt to categorise some of the main ones as to quality level and address which ones need work the most.

The Beatles articles Importance
Top High Mid Low None Total
Class
Featured article FA 1 5 6
A 3 3 6
Good article GA 1 1
B 11 30 8 9 20 78
Start 2 35 26 19 107 189
Stub 5 25 25 89 144
Unassessed 1 1 1 3
Total 19 79 59 53 217 427
John Lennon
articles
Importance
Top High Mid Low None Total
Class
Featured article FA 1 1
A 1 1
Good article GA 1 1
B 13 13
Start 52 52
Stub 38 38
Unassessed
Total 106 106
Paul McCartney articles Importance
Top High Mid Low None Total
Class
Featured article FA
A 1 1
Good article GA 1 1
B 16 16
Start 65 65
Stub 61 61
Unassessed
Total 144 144
George Harrison
articles
Importance
Top High Mid Low None Total
Class
Featured article FA 1 1
A 2 2
Good article GA 1 1
B 13 13
Start 52 52
Stub 28 28
Unassessed
Total 97 97
Ringo Starr articles Importance
Top High Mid Low None Total
Class
Featured article FA
A
Good article GA 1 1
B 8 8
Start 38 38
Stub 16 16
Unassessed
Total 63 63
Apple Corps and Apple Records
articles
Importance
Top High Mid Low None Total
Class
Featured article FA 4 4
A 3 3
Good article GA 1 1
B 42 42
Start 98 98
Stub 65 65
Unassessed
Total 213 213
George Martin
articles
Importance
Top High Mid Low None Total
Class
Featured article FA 5 5
A 2 2
Good article GA 1 1
B 49 49
Start 137 137
Stub 88 88
Unassessed 2 2
Total 284 284
Brian Epstein
articles
Importance
Top High Mid Low None Total
Class
Featured article FA
A
Good article GA 1 1
B 3 3
Start 7 7
Stub 4 4
Unassessed
Total 15 15

This is an ongoing task and your help would be appreciated. Have a read of some of the existing classifications so you know what this about, and please do read the instructions before starting, as there are a few tweaks and other jobs we can do at the same time as classifying with minimal extra effort and good returns!

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[edit] Article Assessment Department

Welcome to WikiProject The Beatles' Article Assessment Department.

[edit] Quick links

[edit] How to grade

  • Locate ungraded Beatles related articles which are within the scope of the project. Those we know about reside in Category:Unassessed Beatles articles and Category:Unassessed-importance Beatles articles
  • Grade the article using the grading and importance scheme below.
  • Once graded, the {{WPBeatles}} template needs to be included (not subst'd) on the Talk page with the correct parameters. (most articles will have it already, but with no parameters).
  • Edit the /comments subpage to add comments about why you rated the article the way you did. Please sign and date your comment with ~~~~ as usual.
  • Apply small fixes on the spot (or big fixes if you have the time and inclination).
  • While you are there, check that the article is in at least one (and usually only one) Beatles category.
  • If the article is graded better than a stub but it has a stub template, remove the stub template(s) from the article.
  • * If the article in serious need of some 'tender loving care', add it to Wikipedia:WikiProject_The_Beatles#Adopt_an_article
  • Add stubs to the "articles to expand" section of the To Do list, add cleanup candidates to that list too.
  • If the article needs a photo, put a {{Reqphoto}} template onto the article's talk page and add it to the "photos needed" list on the To do page
  • If an article might be in need of either merging or splitting, please note the article first and, for merge proposals, any articles you would suggest merging the article into. update this

[edit] Examples

Place some examples of the template usage/grading procedure here.

  • For example, change {{WPBeatles}} to {{WPBeatles|B|Low}} if you think it's a low importance B class article... then explain why on the comments subpage which you can get to by clicking on the edit link in the WPBeatles box.

[edit] Grading scheme

[edit] Codes and meanings

[edit] Article progress grading scheme

Status Meaning of Status
Needed The article hasn't been started yet. You can help by creating it.
Merge The article is a merge candidate, as it probably should not stand on its own. Remarks should clarify suggested merge target. If multiple articles are to be merged into one, or if the issue is complicated, it is advised to list it at the end of this article. (Pages relating to the general history of the Beatles can be listed for discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles/The Beatles history where the merger of History of the Beatles and related articles is being pondered.)
Merge or Delete This WikiProject acknowledges that not everything which can be said about the Beatles belongs in a general enyclopedia. This article is a candidate for a deletion nomination or at best a merge of whatever useful info is in it, to some other article. Suggest the other article if you can. A redirect should be left behind whether info is merged or tossed.
Merge Article has been merged and is now a redirect.
AfD This WikiProject acknowledges that not everything which can be said about the Beatles belongs in a general enyclopedia. This article is a candidate for AfD and it is so off, that it is recommended that no redirect should be left behind.
Stub The article is either a very short article or a stub that will need a lot of work to bring it to A-Class level.
Start The article has a decent amount of content, but it is still very weak in certain areas (remarks should clarify where), and may lack a table.
B The article is "almost there" but it may be missing one of the following: references, balance of content, NPOV or an important section. Alternatively, the English may need a comprehensive rewrite to make it flow.
A The article provides a well-written and complete description of the topic, as described in How to write a Great Article. It includes a well-written introduction to the topic, and an appropriate series of headings to break up the article. It should have sufficient external literature references, preferably from the "hard" literature rather than websites. It should be well illustrated, with no copyright problems.
Good article GA Reserved exclusively for articles that have received "Good Article" status, and meet the current criteria for Good Articles. Article should be at or around A-class to receive this tag.
Featured article FA Reserved exclusively for articles that have received "Featured article" status, and meet the current criteria for featured articles.

[edit] Article importance grading scheme

Status Meaning of Status
Top This article is of the utmost importance to this project, as it forms the basis of all information.
High This article is fairly important to this project, as it covers a general area of knowledge.
Mid This article is relatively important to this project, as it fills in some more specific knowledge of certain areas.
Low This article is of little importance to this project, but it covers a highly specific area of knowledge or an obscure piece of trivia.
None This article is of unknown importance to this project. It remains to be analyzed.

[edit] {{WPBeatles}} instructions

[edit] About the template

This template adds article talk pages, category talk pages, template talk pages, etc (whatever it is placed on) to Category:WikiProject The Beatles articles. It is also used to track article classifications and presents readers with a current "to do" list.

Please be very careful when editing this template if you don't understand MediaWiki Parser Functions. This template is now very complicated and could easily be broken. (Note that you may find m:Magic_words and m:ParserFunctions very helpful in understanding what this does... consider consulting with User:Kingboyk or User:Lar before making any changes, please)

The usage instructions are now stored in a separate page - Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles/Project banner - and may be safely edited by any project member.

[edit] Usage

Please note: This template should be transcluded ({{WPBeatles}}) and not substituted (subst) because it employs conditional code. Transclusion also allows easy updating of all the Project's talk pages without having to edit hundreds of pages.

A simple way to use the template is to copy the following onto the talk page, and then optionally remove the unnecessary lines. If any further help is needed, please ask at WPT:TB or ask User:Kingboyk or User:Lar.

{{WPBeatles
|living =
|class  = 
|importance =
|apple =
|john =
|paul =
|george =
|ringo =
|epstein =
|martin =
|also-beatles =
|display=
|album =
|song =
|musician=
|arts=
|album-importance =
|bio-importance =
|song-importance =
|attention =
|needs-infobox=
}}

[edit] Parameters

[edit] Example 1: basic

{{WPBeatles}}

For main space articles which have not yet been assessed, simply use {{WPBeatles}}. This default places the article in Category:Unassessed Beatles articles and Category:Unassessed-importance Beatles articles, and doesn't change the wording of the template in any way.

[edit] Example 2: full

Todo: Some examples (with named articles) of how to use the new template. Or are folks happy with the above instructions?

[edit] Articles covered by the project

[edit] Index - The Beatles

Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/The Beatles articles by quality

[edit] Index - John

Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/John Lennon articles by quality

[edit] Index - Paul

Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Paul McCartney articles by quality

[edit] Index - George

Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/George Harrison articles by quality

[edit] Index - Ringo

Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Ringo Starr articles by quality

[edit] Index - Apple

Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Apple Corps and Apple Records articles by quality

[edit] Index - George Martin

Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/George Martin articles by quality

[edit] Index - Brian Epstein

Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Brian Epstein articles by quality

[edit] Articles not yet in any category

I've created Category:Brian Epstein, although I wonder if it should be Category:Brian Epstein/NEMS or have a subcategory Category:Artists managed by Brian Epstein. Anyway, the category is in place and contains Mr Epstein's bio, his book, and some of the artists he managed. --kingboyk 08:17, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge candidates

[edit] Merge proposals:

  • Beatle haircut --> article about Beatles phenomena
    • Leave a redirect. What would the overall article be called, and what other articles would get merged in? I sort of favour leaving this one as is (It already has Mop Top redirecting to it I think)... not strongly though. ++Lar: t/c
    • Of course my merge suggestion was just that: a suggestion. But I think the article is quite short and plain. There are other fashion and culture influences the Beatles have contributed to or been responsible for. I would prefer though, to refrain from suggesting a new article name until the bulk of the work on Beatles articles has been carried out - then we can see what shorter articles and stubs remain and possible be better able to come up with an article at that point (if one is deemed necessary). For that reason, for the meantime, I'd say leave it as it is and discuss it later. --Mal 20:19, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
      • Nod. It's a long and winding road from where we are now to "done". Keep suggesting stuff, the more we have a handle on what should go where, the better off we will be. Besides if we can find a few more items to merge in (the suits they wore on Ed Sullivan started a trend among bands, for instance) to "Beatles style" (or "Beatles stylistic influences" if you prefer) we have a winner... knowing what we want to call it doesn't mean we have to do the work first! whenever is soon enough. (that's a bit eventualist I realise... ++Lar: t/c 21:13, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
  • The Beatles record sales, worldwide charts --> Beatles trivia
  • It's not really trivia. It really needs a {{wikify}}. Beyond that, my 'vote' would be leave as is or see if it could be merged into The Beatles discography. It would need to be a slow and painful merge so as not to spoil that nice discography, alas. --kingboyk 05:16, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
  • I think merging it in with discography might be a good idea... ++Lar: t/c 21:14, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
  • I think the article is a bit too black and white... its not 'sexy' enough, if you get me. It needs to be formatted properly so that the (wealth of) information included there is easy for the poor wee human brain to put into context. As it stands, it would make your head spin a bit. Looking back at your comment Kingboy, I think that's probably what you mean by "wikify". Though even then, I'd consider the article to probably be a bit stark. I agree with developing it though, and see how it ends up looking - a decision can better be made after that. --Mal 05:32, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Not sure. It's a long article. If we believe that such detail is necessary, Keep. Otherwise merge as Mal suggested. If we're merging into History of The Beatles it will have to wait. I have serious reservations vis a vis History of The Beatles and its relationship to the flagship article. History of The Beatles as a fork just has not worked. --kingboyk 05:19, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Let's wait and see what comes up in the Albums section. There may be a Decca Sessions album article which we can merge to.
  • Logically speaking, the Decca audition is part of the Beatles history (and also trivia information). Man I which I could remember the rules I was taught at uni regarding databases! The concepts and methodology would definately apply here! --Mal 05:32, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure if this should stand alone, or if the Beatles in Hamburg should have a larger more comprehensive article (which couold be quite spiffing if we can get photos). --kingboyk 16:12, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The big ones

  • Bootlegs

[edit] Split proposals:

[edit] Already merged

See Wikipedia:WikiProject_The_Beatles/Log#Page_merges and Category:WikiProject The Beatles merged articles

[edit] Categories

[edit] Worklist categories


[edit] Articles by quality log - The Beatles

[edit] Articles by quality log - John Lennon

[edit] Articles by quality log - Paul McCartney

[edit] Articles by quality log - George Harrison

[edit] Articles by quality log - Ringo Starr

[edit] Articles by quality log - Apple Corps and Apple Records

[edit] Articles by quality log - George Martin

[edit] Articles by quality log - Brian Epstein

[edit] See also